[CPWG] PIR/Ethos

Jacqueline Morris jam at jacquelinemorris.com
Tue Jan 21 19:52:50 UTC 2020


There are a lot of people who are not in favour of stopping the sale who
aren't comfortable posting given the "passion" that giving such a response
has engendered on this list and others. Try a survey or poll, I think that
the response might be enlightening.
Regards
Jacqueline

On Tue, 21 Jan 2020, 7:36 am Bill Woodcock, <woody at pch.net> wrote:

> >> On Jan 21, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Nat Cohen <ncohen at telepathy.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> My view is that the consensus, though not full, seems to suggest that
> we try to stop the sale rather than merely impose contract provisions on
> the new entity.
>
> I’ve seen you say that several times, but most everyone else seems to be
> in agreement that this deal is not ok, and cannot be made ok by any of the
> non-binding “promises” that the PE folks have been talking about.  Those
> are, literally, just talk.  The whole point of using the coop form was to
> create a legal binding mechanism for the necessary protections.  If the PE
> folks were serious, they’d have offered up some mechanism of their own.
> They haven’t.
>
> I think the question at hand is whether we advocate for disallowing this
> particular back-door deal (and then have to address the same question over
> and over as ISOC comes back with their #2 PE offer, and their #3 PE offer,
> and their #4 PE offer…), or whether we advocate for disallowing back-door
> deals as a matter of principle, and point out instead that ICANN has a
> regulatory duty to the stability of the name and number system, and a
> regulatory duty to the public interest, and that they can only serve those
> duties by enacting an actual competitive, multistakeholder process for
> redelegation.
>
> That gives good outcomes.
>
> Letting people go wildly into debt in order to circumvent competition and
> the multistakeholder process guarantees bad outcomes.
>
>                                -Bill
>
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