[CPWG] About Single Subject Meetings

Sat May 23 00:25:09 UTC 2020

And THIS thread is a perfect example of why we need such tools! Subject line is “About Single Subject Meetings,” and we’re currently having a discussion about slack.  I gave a very short presentation on the TTF call the other day to make the case for tools like SLACK.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ho1j1gbm3wabyne/Case4Loomio.mp4?dl=0

Currently, I’m enamored with Loomio. It does everything Slack does and adds consensus building and decision support tools that are only available with Slack using a plug-in. Come join the party. We can even start an EthosMustDie thread for you!

Loomio.org/at-large<http://loomio.org/at-large>

From: Evan Leibovitch <evanleibovitch at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, May 22, 2020 at 6:34 AM
To: "admin at ttcsweb.org" <admin at ttcsweb.org>
Cc: CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>, Holly Raiche <h.raiche at internode.on.net>, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>
Subject: Re: [CPWG] About Single Subject Meetings

Thanks for reminding me!

The Slack channel has been in existence almost six years! (Created by Dev May 29 '14 and joined by me, Olivier, Ariel(!) and others a few days later.

I've rejoined. It's now one of multiple workspaces I'm involved with.

It's downright trivial to create channels for each of the individual topics that may interest people, enabling WG members to scan, join and catch up on what interests them. That way I could participate in the #EthosCapitalMustDie channel and leave everyone else in the CPWG alone ;-)

Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada
@evanleibovitch / @el56

On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 08:17, Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society <admin at ttcsweb.org<mailto:admin at ttcsweb.org>> wrote:
The work the TTF has put in reviewing and documenting this
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/48348446/How%20At-Large%20should%20use%20group%20chat-2017.pdf

The slack room using the free tier has been setup in 2014(!) and first used during ATLAS II

 here’s an invite to the icannatlarge.slack.com<http://icannatlarge.slack.com>

https://join.slack.com/t/icannatlarge/shared_invite/zt-5r6y60n5-rYNL4Dq15L3elsHgnQpLgw

we can use the free tier (and we could apply for non profit pricing - as I recall you pointed that out at the TTF session at ICANN60 as my last TTF meeting as chair)

Shrug, we just need to do - just like we switched from adobe connect to zoom and at large staff to run the invites. The free tier is bette than the Skype chat

Dev Anand

On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 10:20 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evanleibovitch at gmail.com<mailto:evanleibovitch at gmail.com>> wrote:
Well, good to know the path is identified.

Given the volume of work being done and the genuine need to prevent volunteer exhaustion, can the case be re-made? Or is it a dead end? Not quite fair that ICANN deems it suitable for staff but not the rest of the community.

- Evan
On May 21, 2020, 8:23 PM -0400, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>>, wrote:

Ha ha! Welcome to the party. The TTF have been trying to get Slack support for years! I tried for just the CCTRT and failed and ICANN staff actually USE it. Sigh.
Jonathan Zuck

Executive Director

Innovators Network Foundation

www.InnovatorsNetwork.org<http://www.InnovatorsNetwork.org>

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From: CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:cpwg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Evan Leibovitch <evanleibovitch at gmail.com<mailto:evanleibovitch at gmail.com>>
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Subject: Re: [CPWG] About Single Subject Meetings

Much as I usually loathe solving human problems with tech solutions, this may be an appropriate time to suggest such a path.

I hated Slack(*)... until I was forced to use it regularly in some organizations in which I participate. It acts like a Skype that's fine tuned to organizational use with easy creation of ad hoc subgroups and the ability for participants to come and go at their own pace. Furthermore, real time chat now is great for diverse time zones and handles threads better than email. When properly used, chats can be where the preparatory work is done, leaving calls for decision making and when diversity of feedback is more important than focus.

- Evan

(*) while I have a Slack account for some orgs, my day job uses an open source Slack workalike called Mattermost. Other options such as Telegram and Microsoft Teams also exist. What I mean is that I'm suggesting more use of an organizational chat system but am not trying to push any one version or vendor.
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