[CPWG] About Single Subject Meetings

Sat May 23 23:33:25 UTC 2020

I appreciate the attempts to find a workable solution that balances the need for ALAC to develop policy positions that are the result of reasoned discussion as against the time people have available.  I have to disagree with Christopher in that I don’t think that is possible with a CPWG call only one a month.  ALAC needs to stay across what is happening generally, and for those people who are particularly interested in one or two issues, take the deep dives of a single issue call but just on that issue.  The feat is that, if the CPWG meets as as a group only once a month, we will lose an overview of the policy debates going on. 

Just my two cents worth

Holly

> On May 24, 2020, at 2:55 AM, mail at christopherwilkinson.eu CW <mail at christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
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> Good afternoon:
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> In the light of all that has recently been said about this, I could envisage a solution along the following lines, at least for the next twelve months when the AGB issues will be by-far the most important for the ICANN community:
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> 1.  CPWG should continue to meet in a plenary conference call once a month. Between-whiles, the ALAC should function as an Executive Committee managing other current business, including the occasional votes and reporting back to the RALOs, monthly.
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> 2.  All weekly calls should be Single-Issue calls. There is a degree of urgency here regarding the AGB, because At Large is currently rather late in the game, playing catch-up.
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> 3.  After an extended trial period, At Large would review the experience and decide how to move forward. Bearing in mind that the current accumulation of weekly CPWGs plus multiple Single Issue calls is - I think -  not sustainable for most of our membership.
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> Regards
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> Christopher Wilkinson
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>> El 21 de mayo de 2020 a las 21:32 Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org> escribió: 
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>> Well, I’m always happy to revisit how we’re operating the CPWG but I’m not sure I understand your comment Roberto. We’ve made a separation with the OFBWG so there are now two workgroups. The CPWG is where DNS policy is addressed. It’s true that we summarize some of the discussions on the ALAC and AltPLUS and Eduardo asks me to report into NARALO but I don’t think there are duplicate discussions with the CPWG unless I’m missing some calls. Help me out. The CPWG should be where we are developing our positions on various policy issues, ideally managing participation in ICANN WGs (with reporting and feedback) and managing the drafting of public comments to WGs and advice to the board.
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>> From: CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Roberto Gaetano <mail.roberto.gaetano at gmail.com>
>> Date: Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 12:27 PM
>> To: "Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail. com>" <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>
>> Cc: CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: [CPWG] About Single Subject Meetings
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>> I think that we need to do a serious effort to prioritise things.
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>> The second observation is that I thought that the CPWG was the place where the discussions in the different Was were reported to a wider audience, while my impression is that we are having a second round of discussions on things that have been already discussed in the working groups. These discussions are then reported to the ALAC and to the RALOs, in some cases, like EURALO, preceded by the same report presented to the RALO’s Board, with the result that people that actively participate to calls hear the same points - although with a different level of detail - at least four times.
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>> Considering that not everybody is interested in all topics - this is the main reason why we have WGs where people go according to their interests - I am under the impression that we need to review the way CPWG is operating.
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>> Cheers,
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>> Roberto
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>> On 21.05.2020, at 21:16, Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com <mailto:eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> I have noticed that, more and more, we are having CPWG single subject meetings in addition to the weekly CPWG meetings. 
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>> It is my strong impression that this is causing "meeting fatigue". As a result, we may start to see a drop in participation and hence its effectiveness.
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>> I recommend that instead of having additional meetings, use the CPWG weekly meetings and convert them into CPWG single issue meetings when necessary.
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>> -ed
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