[CPWG] Legal Vs Natural persons.

Thu Oct 15 16:42:38 UTC 2020

Dear Michelle and John,

Thank you.

I shared it on this list as an example of a Registry that makes a
distinction between classes of Registrants. In GDPR discussions, one of the
topics is Legal Vs Natural Persons, .ie could be one of the models for
implementing such a distinction in the TLD space.  In the gTLD space,
registration might not require manual attention if the distinction is
merely a matter of having more fields of data for legal persons, unless the
Registry feels it necessary to verify the data so furnished by the
Registrant.

Sivasubramanian M <https://www.linkedin.com/in/sivasubramanianmuthusamy/>
6.Internet at gmail.com
twitter.com/shivaindia

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:39 PM Michele Neylon - Blacknight <
michele at blacknight.com> wrote:

> John
>
> The .ie whois is not thin - it's thick
>
> Unlike with gTLDs the fields are left blank when the data is not being
> made public, so any .ie registered to anyone other than a legal person aka
> a limited company is left blank.
>
> The documentation requirements have, thankfully, been reduced
> significantly over the last few years, but they still can cause headaches.
>
> Domain registration is NOT anything close to "real time" and registrations
> are only processed (manually) during Irish office hours.
>
> All of these, and other factors, mean that interactions with .ie domain
> names are slow, manual and costly compared to most other domain extensions.
>
> Regards
>
> Michele
>
>
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> On 14/10/2020, 16:57, "CPWG on behalf of John McCormac" <
> cpwg-bounces at icann.org on behalf of jmcc at hosterstats.com> wrote:
>
>     On 14/10/2020 16:02, sivasubramanian muthusamy wrote:
>     >
>     > We could ask .ie what this is all about, and how it works:
>     >
>     > https://www.iedr.ie/document-requirements/
>     >
>     >
>
>     The .IE is a managed ccTLD and it requires some documentation to prove
>     that the prospective registrant is entitled to register the domain
> name.
>     IEDR has relaxed the registration rules in the last few years. Many of
>     the SMEs are what is known as sole traders. These are indivudals
> trading
>     in their own name or with a registered business name. The equivalent
> US
>     version would be the "doing business as/DBA). A registered business
> name
>     is registered through the Companies Registrations Office (www.cro.ie)
>     and the registry can look up the number of the registered business
> name
>     quite quickly. The company number registration number (for Irish
>     companies) can also be checked on the CRO website. The site also
>     explains the other categories. The .IE WHOIS is a thin WHOIS. The
>     registration process has come a long way in the last twenty years and
>     most new registrations in the Irish market would be in .IE rather than
>     the gTLDs. The only competing new gTLD is the .IRISH and that's only
>     around 3K registrations compared to the 300K .IE registrations. The
>     Irish market is quite unusual in that there's a considerable overlap
>     with the Northern Irish and UK markets. The biggest non-Irish ccTLD in
>     the Irish hosting market is actually .UK with about 33K .UK domain
> names
>     on Irish market hosters.
>
>     Regards...jmcc
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