[CPWG] ALAC Advice

Tue Jun 15 08:46:12 UTC 2021

This is a valuable conversation, thanks to Hadia and Roberto for starting it. Strongly support Evan in the “what do you need from us” approach.  Not sure we’re there yet in terms of a CPWG decision, but we could use our developing academic engagement network to leverage these efforts. Happy to share thoughts or proposals on how this could be done, including external funding. Should we be ready to set up an End User Research WG please put my name on the list.

Great thread all, thanks for this,

Joanna  

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+1 Jonathan

We need to  establish our own approach to consensus building within At-Large that takes account of more voices of endusers, as Evin suggests. Maybe we have not been effective in our attempts to truly get the views of end-users. 

As we are attempting within our ccTLD models session @ICANN71, we need to get Internet user views about systems and processes that they are experiencing but with perhaps no understanding about why these processes and policies exist - for example,  people who can't understand why they are being impacted and experiencing strange things happening to them on the internet - those who have never heard about "DNS Abuse" but are certainly experiencing it.

The Boards mandate for At-Large is to get ICANN's messages out to our communities so our first focus is on getting our ALSes and individual members "engaged with the ICANN process" and its policies.  Surely our "legitimacy" to contribute to the discussions that we have with other sections of the ICANN community needs to come from those who have NOT been instructed to consider ICANN expectations first and foremost. Maybe we need to be canvassing the views of people BEFORE they enter ICANN and then asking them after a period of time about what they found helpful about actually being part of the ICANN process.

This is where I think our research needs to be directed - getting the views of endusers who dont yet know about ICANN and can give us feedback that would be more relevant for us to focus on.

An early morning reflection on a great discussion topic. Thank you Roberto.

Maureen

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021, 5:25 am Jonathan Zuck via CPWG, <cpwg at icann.org <mailto:cpwg at icann.org> > wrote:

I agree that we should have this discussion.  It's unfortunate to have it in a public forum because it really has to do with how the ALAC and the At-Large community operates. Let's do it!

Jonathan 

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Subject: [CPWG] ALAC Advice 

Dear all,
At today's session on "End User Participation in ICANN PDPs and their Role within the ICANN ecosystem” we had different opinions on how to deal with the situation in which At-Large does not reach a consensus position.
>From the discussion on the chat it emerged that there are different views. I also believe that this impacts also on the role of ALAC as Advisory Committee. I wonder whether we need to separate the participation on the PDP from the advice (to the Board).
Maybe we should have in a future CPWG session a discussion on this topic.
Cheers,
Roberto
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