[CPWG] REMINDER | Meeting invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 06 October 2021 at 13:00 UTC

Wed Oct 6 03:00:31 UTC 2021

Thank you for the discussion on this thread.

ICANN needs to take a position very quickly.

Understandably, there are many articles, blogs on this very important 
and
current topic.

I look forward to the CPWG meeting later in the evening.

Sincerely,

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On 2021-10-05 22:27, lists--- via CPWG wrote:
> Good evening:
> 
> Thankyou, all.  I agree with Judith. As my original message indicated,
> today, this is not mainly about the technical interfaces between the
> DNS (ICANN) and the Social media neetworks (FB). It is about informed
> - or otherwise - public perception. So,  i maintain my request for
> OCTO to say something concrete that we can use locally, soon.
> .(EN/FR/ES, please)
> 
> Meanwhile, I ask to maintain the Social Media point on the CPWG agenda
> tomorrow.  Themes:
> 
> - Internet architecture: No single point of failure; That principle
> was one of the best proitections of users' interests;
> 
> - DNS abuse - in the light of today's US Congressional Hearings on
> Facebook.
> 
> Regards
> 
> CW
> 
>> On 5 Oct 2021, at 15:41, Judith Hellerstein via CPWG
>> <cpwg at icann.org> wrote:
>> 
>> HI All,
>> I agree with David. But what OCTO and At Large can do is publish the
>> blogs such as cloudflare which is written for simple explanations or
>> disseminate and OCTO Blog to explain what happened and how it is not
>> really a DNS issue.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Judith
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> judith at jhellerstein.com
>> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 9:35 AM, David Mackey via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm afraid the initial reports by the mainstream media pointing a
>> finger at DNS were a red herring.
>> 
>> If you dig down a level, you'll see that the DNS system was
>> prevented from working because of a bad BGP configuration change,
>> i.e. Facebook's IP network failed.
>> 
>> When It's not DNS, it's BGP -- Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp and
>> Oculus are Down [1] - Ars Technica
>> 
>> From what I understand, it appears Facebook's weak IP network
>> architecture is to blame. It does not separate network admin traffic
>> from service content traffic. It's common practice in telecom
>> networks to build better, more robust failsafe mechanisms into their
>> networks.
>> 
>> Conclusion: It's unlikely that the DNS system has anything to do
>> with Facebook's outage. Facebook simply needs to improve it's
>> networking infrastructure. That's definitely not an ICANN issue.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> David
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 8:21 AM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via CPWG
>> <cpwg at icann.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Christopher,
>> 
>> what is ICANN to do? Is it in its mission to be the "Defender of the
>> DNS"? I wonder...
>> Perhaps ISOC could write something but from memory I can't recall
>> ICANN making such a statement when such incidents happened in the
>> past.
>> Or perhaps it did? We could ask OCTO what's his point of view on
>> this.
>> Kindest regards,
>> 
>> Olivier
>> 
>> On 05/10/2021 00:39, lists--- via CPWG wrote:
>> Good evening:
>> 
>> Thankyou. Noted.
>> 
>> Please add to the agenda (first point):
>> 
>> "The DNS and Social Media - what lessons to be learnt from the
>> current situation?"
>> 
>> By way of explanation, this request is as much about perception and
>> PR as about the eventaul facts-.
>> Local Global Media (e.g. BBC) are attributing the collapse of
>> Facebook, Whatsap and Instagram to issues with the Domain Nam
>> System,. Affecting "billions" of users.
>> 
>> If so, that requires an official response from ICANN, now.
>> 
>> CW
>> 
>> On 4 Oct 2021, at 18:59, ICANN At-Large Staff via CPWG
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>> 
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