[CPWG] 2022 IGF & New gTLD Question

Sat Dec 3 07:57:39 UTC 2022

Dear All,

The personal / official classification thought fair to ask anyone may be for a possible legal stand. In ethics it is invariably a personal best answer to move on.

The reported "thunk" of  Göran Marby at the IGF Townhall makes an interesting reading.

IDNs [even way back in 2012] was a stiff technical challenge. There is considerable progress and despite UNICODE, the coercion into the steady state latin based gTLDs is both understandable and ineluctable.

Just thinking aloud:

Whether one likes it or not, the internet and related technologies have emerged from the strong technology innovations base of the english knowing part of the world. If something goes wrong one may have to be able to quickly peel off the veneer of IDNs and set things right on the latin based expertise. Safety matters.

"In the end, only external factors matter. If I use a Web browser or live near a computer-controlled nuclear plant, little do I care whether the source program is readable or modular if graphics take ages to load, or if a wrong input blows up the plant."
                                                 - Bertrand Meyer, Obect Oriented Software Construction, Interactive Software Engineering Inc, 1997.
                                                                                                          [This quote is in the context of Internal and External Quality Factors]

Thankfully the business brought the domain names of all kinds into the "Programming Space". We can hope for logic and the language design will manage the desirable levels of safety.

Hopefully, we can take advantage of this current context and build really non-latin methods.

Anyways, it is for Satish Babu et al to comment on this.

Sincerely,

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From: CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Alan Greenberg via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
Sent: 02 December 2022 09:44
To: CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>; mike palage.com <mike at palage.com>
Subject: Re: [CPWG] 2022 IGF & New gTLD Question

I don't think that this is a "policy" change at all, but rather Goran speaking on his own behalf. I have heard very similar things recently (either when he spoke at the NARALO General Assembly or to At-Large at ICANN75).

But given that one could (should?) presume that unless he qualifies his remarks as personal, he is speaking on behalf of ICANN Org, it would be a fair question to ask him.

Or to ask our Board Member Leon.

On a more general note, we have all heard (and spouted!) statements that the 2012 round was too focused on Latin TLD and going forward we want more IDNs. But saying that this is the (prime) intention of the program is not something I have heard. And I see little in the SubPro recommendations to imply that this will be the outcome. And the "not left to right" reference narrows it even further!

Alan

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Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 4:18 PM
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Subject: [CPWG] 2022 IGF & New gTLD Question

Hello All,

This week I have seen many ICANN community members participating, in person and virtually, at IGF 2022.  Today during the IGF 2022 Town Hall, "Launch of the Coalition for Digital Africa" there was a statement by Goran which made me do a double take. In response to a questions about new gTLDs Goran stated that "[t]he intention of the top level domains is not to have more English top level domains where you read left to right."

I have included the full scribed text below along with a link to the YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VXcWW74qG4 at 4:34:42)

When exactly did this change in policy happen, I must have missed it. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

Michael

"One more thing.  One other small thing that I can do, and it's one of the biggest things we have done in a long time.  We are going in the process where we want to have more top level domains, domain names and we are right now in the process after a long period of time from ICANN community work, where we -- on the 14th, we are going to start about the Next Generation of top level domains.  The intention of the top level domains is not to have more English top level domains where you read left to right.  And the intention is to make sure the top level domains are for regions, Africa is one we would like to talk about.  We would like to see more African top level domains operated here in Africa and that support your businesses and community and lives."
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