[CPWG] ICANN Blog: The Global Digital Compact: A Top-down Attempt to Minimize the Role of The Technical Community

Wed Aug 23 16:44:10 UTC 2023

I quite agree with Milton that this '*sky is falling*' trope is
overstated.  His list of the real - and greater! - threats to the '*one
world, one internet*' principle is hardly debatable.

Carlton

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 at 10:30, David Mackey via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org> wrote:

> Thanks for the information Olivier.
>
> I just came across an interesting response from Milton Mueller's Internet
> Governance Project.
>
> The Technical Community and Internet Governance: A Response to the
> Costerton-Curran-Wilson letter
> <https://www.internetgovernance.org/2023/08/22/the-technical-community-and-internet-governance-a-response-to-the-costerton-curran-wilson-letter/?utm_source=Internet+Governance+Project&utm_campaign=4f4ed45b10-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4377131903-4f4ed45b10-288444909>
>
> I include the last four paragraphs below ...
>
> 4. Why it is harmful to make the UN the Boogeyman
>
> The most annoying thing about the ICANN-ARIN-APNIC missive, however, is
> its apparent attempt to revive the old “UN is trying to take over the
> Internet” meme. This boogeyman has been used by the technical community and
> the US government to haunt the children of the global multistakeholder
> community since 2002. When the threat was real, or even real but
> exaggerated, this was OK. But 7 years after the ICANN transition there is
> no excuse for it. We have already explained why the UN lacks the power to
> take over any key Internet governance functions. We have already noted that
> their only systematic attempt to do that, at WSIS in 2005, totally failed.
>
> Reviving this threat narrative, however, does real damage to the public
> discourse on IG, because it diverts attention from the real threats to
> the multistakeholder model.
>
> We live in a digital environment that is fragmenting along jurisdictional
> lines. The Europeans are pursuing Digital Sovereignty, as are the Indians
> and Chinese. The Americans are weaponizing semiconductors, undersea cables,
> investment capital in ICT, and actively considering blocking Chinese apps;
> the UK is considering banning end to end encryption, leading to the
> possible exit of key applications and services from the UK market. Tech
> nationalism is on the rise everywhere. What we must understand in this
> context is that the threats to a global Internet come from conflicts
> between and regulations from sovereign states, not from the UN, a weak
> intergovernmental institution that can only act when these states all agree.
>
> Our advice to Costerton, Curran and Wilson: take a deep breath. Calmly
> consider what powers the multistakeholder community – which consists of a
> largely undifferentiated mass of techies, civil society, academics and
> business – already have in Internet governance. Try to do an accurate
> accounting of the threats to that governance model. Devote your attention
> and efforts to those threats. Don’t try to drive the community into
> pointless battles with ghosts.
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 4:49 AM gopal via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Olivier.
>>
>> Nice blog.
>>
>> Separation of concerns of "Technical" and "Managerial" has been into
>> discussions several times. There is no single formula to achieve this as of
>> now.
>>
>> I suggest reading the article titled *"The Technological Sublime:
>> Incredible, terrifying, or both?"* at:
>>
>>
>> https://www.arcual.art/blog/the-technological-sublime-incredible-terrifying-or-both#:~:text=often%20conflicting%20ways.-,Much%20like%20the%20sublime%20in%20art%2C%20technology%20evokes%20both%20awe,greater%20detail%20during%20this%20article.
>>
>> <https://www.arcual.art/blog/the-technological-sublime-incredible-terrifying-or-both#:~:text=often%20conflicting%20ways.-,Much%20like%20the%20sublime%20in%20art%2C%20technology%20evokes%20both%20awe,greater%20detail%20during%20this%20article.>
>> The Technological Sublime: Incredible, terrifying, or both?
>> <https://www.arcual.art/blog/the-technological-sublime-incredible-terrifying-or-both#:~:text=often%20conflicting%20ways.-,Much%20like%20the%20sublime%20in%20art%2C%20technology%20evokes%20both%20awe,greater%20detail%20during%20this%20article.>
>> Much like the sublime in art, technology evokes both awe and a sense of
>> unease. Here, we deep dive further into this duality.
>> www.arcual.art
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>> Gopal T V
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>> *From:* CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ
>> Crépin-Leblond via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
>> *Sent:* 23 August 2023 12:44
>> *To:* cpwg at icann.org <cpwg at icann.org>
>> *Subject:* [CPWG] ICANN Blog: The Global Digital Compact: A Top-down
>> Attempt to Minimize the Role of The Technical Community
>>
>> An interesting new ICANN blog post:
>>
>>
>> https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/the-global-digital-compact-a-top-down-attempt-to-minimize-the-role-of-the-technical-community-21-08-2023-en
>>
>> This one's likely to be causing some ripples in the Internet Governance
>> landscape.
>> But some are already asking why are the other RIRs and ISOC not
>> co-signatories?
>> And how about the IETF & World Wide Web foundation?
>>
>> Altogether, it seems like an incomplete set of I* organisations. Or was
>> the piece perhaps meant just as an opinion piece to start a discussion?
>>
>> Kindest regards,
>>
>> Olivier
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