[CPWG] Ready, Fire, Aim

[David Mackey]

Jonathan,

Can you please help us understand where your statement on August 30th broke
down?

*"In any case, let’s have a fulsome discussion about the future of the
At-Large and what we want from it, in Hamburg. I’ve set aside 2 hours for
our anniversary which is intended to be 10min of celebration and 1:50 of
discussion, breakouts, debate, etc. Evan, I hope you’ll be able to
participate."*

It seems to me that the lack of Evan's experience in our discussions will
severely limit the value of any attempt to have a "fulsome" discussion.

Cheers,
David

On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 4:14 PM Evan Leibovitch via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
wrote:

> So, apparently...
>
> The specific process and timeline I proposed in August, which attracted a
> number of endorsements and approvals, has no time in any agenda in Hamburg.
> Instead there'll be some kind of amorphous discussion of "At-Large TNG" or
> whatever at the anniversary, involving the same kind of never-ending
> discussion of definitions and navel-gazing that my proposal explicitly
> attempted to reduce.
>
> It's hard to come to a conclusion *other than* At-Large prefers endless
> introspection and unfocused participation over concrete focus and specific
> action in service of its bylaw mandate. I consider the reaction to my
> proposal an act of bad faith and will not be participating in whatever
> happens Wednesday.
>
> Never let it be said that I have only been negative. But when I come up
> with something constructive and specific that even seems to be met with
> broad agreement and interest in participation, it gets binned without
> explanation and replaced by the status quo. As currently constituted, this
> environment once again demonstrates that it is incapable of improving
> itself, let alone the rest of ICANN.
>
> - Evan
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 3:30 PM Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:
>
>> Given the short notice and unusual nature of such a travel request, I
>> would like to suggest this timeline:
>>
>>    1. Have a "kickoff" in Hamburg, with me participating virtually. I
>>    would prepare for and introduce the topic during the anniversary meeting
>>    Jonathan mentioned and we would then start to assemble a working group. My
>>    preference would be for a small team, preferably of people with strong
>>    written English communications skills who have not participated in other
>>    ICANN constituencies
>>
>>    2. The group would communicate by email list and ad-hoc virtual
>>    meetings, reporting progress back to ALAC meetings. If human resources
>>    allow, it would be optimal for a group representative to present and take
>>    feedback at every RALO at least once.
>>
>>    3. The working group -- hopefully with me there in person -- would
>>    present its work early in the week of ICANN79 meeting, conducting a public
>>    workshop for last-minute fine-tuning, with the intention of ALAC
>>    endorsement at its closing meeting.
>>
>>    4. The working group disbands, and proposes that ALAC revisit the
>>    issue every five years.
>>
>> - Evan
>>
>>
>
> --
> Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada
> @evanleibovitch / @el56
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