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<div dir="ltr">Sounds like Michele and I are in agreement again this year.....wow, everyone remember 2022 :)<span></span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 2, 2022 11:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>; Avri <avri@doria.org>; Bill Jouris <b_jouris@yahoo.com><br>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Context is everything.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">In the context of the IGF it makes perfect sense that Goran and other talking heads from ICANN would be pushing the global internet mantra.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’ve no idea if Goran’s comments were scripted or off the cuff, but I’d give him the benefit of the doubt here – due to the context of the remarks.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">From a technical perspective it’s very clear that IDNs still face a LOT of challenges – the user experience with using them is far from ideal, though it has improved over the past 10 years.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">The UASG’s recent paper on web hosting tools underlines this:</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://uasg.tech/2022/10/testing-reveals-popular-web-hosting-tools-are-not-ua-ready/">https://uasg.tech/2022/10/testing-reveals-popular-web-hosting-tools-are-not-ua-ready/</a></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">From: </span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">CPWG <cpwg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jeff Neuman via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org><br>
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<b>To: </b>Avri <avri@doria.org>, Bill Jouris <b_jouris@yahoo.com><br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CPWG] 2022 IGF & New gTLD Question</span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">I agree. Not the best choice of words in a global context, but probably made sense for where Goran was at the time.</span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">But statements like this one can come back to bite the organization in the future. </span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Two examples, </span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">the GNSO SubPro Working Group found that there should be certain preferences for IDN gTLD Applications when queuing them up for evaluation….(There is a formula built in to ensure that). But statements
like this could increase the demand on ICANN to move faster with a round only dedicated to IDN gTLDs. But of course this was NOT accepted by the GNSO though it was discussed thoroughly.</span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">IDN gTLDs present extremely complex problems with respect to variants at both the top and second levels. This is becoming painfully clear to the IDN ePDP working group which has been tackling
these issues now for quite some time and still has a long way to go. At the past GNSO meeting the GNSO agreed to give the IDN ePDP much more time to complete its work which is now in 2 phases. The first phase deals with most of the top-level issues, while
the second phase deals with the second level. The Top-Level phase is supposed to come out with an initial report in April, but I am not sure if it will meet that deadline. But even if it does, we are talking about another year for a final report only on
phase 1. Phase 2 will not be completed until 2025.</span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">So, although the rest of the process is moving forward with SubPro, there is a very real probability that some of the IDN gTLD issues may not be resolved by the time the new gTLD program is kicked off.</span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Statements like this one, however, may cause people to argue that no new round should be launched until all of the IDN issues are resolved and would point to statements like this one from Goran as justification.
After all, if the goal is to launch IDN gTLDs in the next round, how can you launch a next round if the IDN issues are not yet resolved?</span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">On Dec 2, 2022 at 10:26 AM, <<a href="mailto:cpwg@icann.org">Bill Jouris via CPWG</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">I read these remarks as simply saying that we are not doing another round now simply because we need more English language gTLDs. We are doing it because we are now in a position to offer gTLDs which go beyond the
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:Roboto; color:#6D00F6">On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 1:18 PM, mike palage.com via CPWG</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:Roboto; color:#6D00F6"><<a href="mailto:cpwg@icann.org">cpwg@icann.org</a>> wrote:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hello All,<br>
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This week I have seen many ICANN community members participating, in person and virtually, at IGF 2022. Today during the IGF 2022 Town Hall, "Launch of the Coalition for Digital Africa" there was a statement by Goran which made me do a double take. In response
to a questions about new gTLDs Goran stated that "[t]he intention of the top level domains is not to have more English top level domains where you read left to right."<br>
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I have included the full scribed text below along with a link to the YouTube video (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VXcWW74qG4%20" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VXcWW74qG4
</a>at 4:34:42)<br>
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When exactly did this change in policy happen, I must have missed it. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
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Michael<br>
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"One more thing. One other small thing that I can do, and it's one of the biggest things we have done in a long time. We are going in the process where we want to have more top level domains, domain names and we are right now in the process after a long period
of time from ICANN community work, where we -- on the 14th, we are going to start about the Next Generation of top level domains. The intention of the top level domains is not to have more English top level domains where you read left to right. And the intention
is to make sure the top level domains are for regions, Africa is one we would like to talk about. We would like to see more African top level domains operated here in Africa and that support your businesses and community and lives."</span></p>
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