[CWG-Stewardship] Do we really need a Contracting Co.?

[Olawale Bakare]

Hi,

"How does the contractor paying hurting the consumers"?

Is like trying to cut off the roots transporting water to the branches of a
tree, saying branches and leaves don't need roots. Can ICANN board and
staff survive without the consumers? IMHO  I think, it's more of a
dependent relationship.
Regards,
Wale
On Dec 2, 2014 6:34 AM, "Avri Doria" <avri at acm.org> wrote:

>
> On 02-Dec-14 07:16, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>
> I also don't understand the view that ICANN community and corporate are
> separate.
>
>
> The ICANN Board and Staff are independent of the Community and can
> overrule the community either by a vote of the Board, or by calling an
> action 'implementation' that does not require community agreement.  I do
> not understand how anyone can see  ICANN community and ICANN Corporate as
> being the same entity, though there are points of contact.  There is a
> strict division between the two, especially since the Board, given its
> understanding of the its fiduciary responsibility sees itself as NOT
> representing the community. Adn the staff is governed by a CEO that is not
> subject, in any way, to community appproval in hiring or contract renewal.
> The Community has NO influence over ICANN Staff.
>
> What does that mean? and how is ICANN community different from a typical
> RIR community.
>
>
> In the RIRs there is no body with a vote that can overrule the will of the
> community in policy making.
>
> Please when you think of who pays, think of it from the customer
> perspective, think of participation, think of the resources that's already
> been expended in this current ICG process.
>
>
> How does the contractor paying hurt the consumers?
>
>  On a lighter note, it's interesting that we will want to put all these
> structure just because of a "what if". It's also interesting that we are
> not thinking of the possibility of the young MRT being subject to capture.
>
>
> I think people are beginning to see the ghost of possible capture
> everywhere and it is becoming another paralyzing function that is being
> used much the way an overblown fear of gaming is being used, as a counter
> to any idea.
>
> I persist in seeing the only real possibility of capture in a massively
> multistakeholder body is that the community process can be captured by
> ICANN corporate decisions made that disregard the community's consensus,
> and that is what we need to protect against.
>
> avri
>
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