[CWG-Stewardship] Composition of MRT

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Sat Dec 13 20:20:30 UTC 2014


Hi,

One thing I might add.  The draft is at the current consensus point, an
annealing point of sorts, of those working on the document for the
NCSG.  It is now up for full NCSG review &c. and thus could change.

But this is where we have gotten to while trying to balance the various
constraints, considerations and ideas within NCSG on the  IANA issue.

avri



On 13-Dec-14 13:28, Avri Doria wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In this, the idea was that the policy making bodies, ie. the 2 naming
> SOs, should have the majority representation.
>
>
>
> avri
>
> On 13-Dec-14 13:06, Guru Acharya wrote:
>> Hi Avri,
>>
>> I presume that GAC would also like to organise according to the 5
>> regions, as it did for the ICG. Would 5 seats for GAC be an
>> acceptable modification driven by the logic that you just presented?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
>> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     As one of those contributing to this draft who suggested this
>>     formula, I can give my thinking:
>>
>>     1.  We should not be looking for numerical parity between the two
>>     policy makers, cc and g, but rather looking at their
>>     organizational structure.
>>
>>     ccTLD policy organizes into regions, (5)
>>     gTLD policy organizes into Stakeholder Group (4)
>>
>>     2. When thinking of gTLD policy, it is the GNSO as a whole that
>>     needs to be represented in the MRT.  The registries have a
>>     prioirty in the CSC which focuses on operational issues.  I see
>>     the MRT as dealing with the Policy aspects and these are GNSO not
>>     just Registry Stakeholder Group.
>>
>>     avri
>>
>>
>>     On 13-Dec-14 12:15, Donna Austin wrote:
>>>
>>>     Milton,
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     Speaking as the RySG representative on the CWG: as direct
>>>     customers of the IANA function, gTLD registries would seek at a
>>>     minimum parity, in your proposal, for five members from the
>>>     ccNSO. Your current composition is inherently imbalanced by
>>>     providing for only 1 gTLD registry operator compared to 5 ccTLD
>>>     registry operators.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     While ccTLDs have in the past been the primary customer of the
>>>     IANA naming services, the delegation of more than 400 new gTLDs
>>>     means that this is no longer the case. If you can find rationale
>>>     to have 5 ccTLD registry operators in your proposed composition
>>>     of the MRT, I see no reason why this rationale should not be
>>>     extended to gTLD registry operators.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     Thanks,
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     Donna
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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>>>     *From:*cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org
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>>>     [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Milton
>>>     L Mueller
>>>     *Sent:* Friday, 12 December 2014 5:42 AM
>>>     *To:* Guru Acharya; cwg-stewardship at icann.org
>>>     <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Composition of MRT
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     Here's an idea that some of us in NCSG are kicking around
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     We propose a 21-member team with 2 non-voting liaisons, with
>>>     some kind of supermajority voting construct (2/3 or 4/5) for key
>>>     decisions. The composition is structured and balanced to ensure
>>>     that the MRT embodies a strong commitment to efficient and
>>>     neutral administration of the DNS root zone rather than any
>>>     specific policy agenda. Safeguards must be in place to ensure
>>>     that it is independent of ICANN corporate but also cannot be
>>>     captured or unduly influenced by governments, intergovernmental
>>>     organizations, or specific economic interests.  The MRT should
>>>     draw most of its ICANN community members from ICANN's GNSO and
>>>     ccNSO, with the GNSO forwarding 4 (1 member for each Stakeholder
>>>     Group), and the ccNSO forwarding 5 (1 for each world region).
>>>     The root server operators should also be represented on the MRT
>>>     with 2 positions. Each ICANN Advisory Committee (GAC, SSAC and
>>>     ALAC) should appoint 2 members. There should be 4 independent
>>>     experts external to the ICANN community selected through a
>>>     public nomination process administered by [who? ISOC? IEEE?] but
>>>     subject to conflict of interest constraints. Additionally, 2
>>>     non-voting but fully participating liaisons from the other
>>>     operational communities should be appointed (by ASO for numbers
>>>     and by IAB for protocols) to facilitate coordination across the
>>>     different IANA functions. MRT members should be appointed for
>>>     limited terms sized appropriate to the contract renewal cycle.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     *From:*cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org
>>>     <mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org>
>>>     [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Guru
>>>     Acharya
>>>     *Sent:* Friday, December 12, 2014 6:07 AM
>>>     *To:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
>>>     *Subject:* [CWG-Stewardship] Composition of MRT
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     The CWG is yet to decide the composition of the MRT. I was
>>>     hoping someone could throw a strawman composition at us so that
>>>     discussions can be initiated.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     As reference, the composition of ICG is as follows:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     ALAC x 2
>>>
>>>     ASO x 1
>>>
>>>     ccNSO x 4
>>>
>>>     GAC x 5
>>>
>>>     GNSO x 3
>>>
>>>     gTLD Registries x 2
>>>
>>>     ICC/BASIS x 1
>>>
>>>     IAB x 2
>>>
>>>     IETF x 2
>>>
>>>     ISOC x 2
>>>
>>>     NRO x 2
>>>
>>>     RSSAC x 2 
>>>
>>>     SSAC x 2
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     1) Should members of non-naming communities (like IETF and ASO)
>>>     be a part of MRT since our proposal only relates to the IANA for
>>>     the names community? For example, the CRISP (numbers community)
>>>     draft proposal does not envision names community members in its
>>>     oversight mechanism.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     2) Which stakeholder groups should be included beyond the ICANN
>>>     community structures so that the MRT is representative of the
>>>     global-multistakeholder community? For example, should IGF-MAG
>>>     members have a place?
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     3) How do we include ccTLDs that are not ccNSO members?
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     4) How do we ensure membership from developing countries (not
>>>     government, but civil society or technical community) - is some
>>>     sort of affirmative action possible?
>>>
>>>
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