[CWG-Stewardship] multistakeholder principle was Re: [] FW: FW: CWG ... 2B

Olawale Bakare wales.baky at googlemail.com
Sun Nov 16 00:03:26 UTC 2014


Hi,

I would think that derailing from the multistakeholder might be attributing
to the proposal's  timeline. However, the composition of "oversight body",
or OPRC as captured in the Strawman 1 may need rewording again. My thought.

Regards,
Wale
On Nov 15, 2014 3:12 PM, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:

>  Avri,
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> I fully support the multistakeholder approach for policy development and
> for policy implementation but I don’t think it fits very well in the
> day-to-day implementation of IANA functions except at a very high level
> such as replacing the IANA Functions Operator as someone else already
> pointed out.
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> Chuck
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> *From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Avri Doria
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 15, 2014 3:11 AM
> *To:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org
> *Subject:* [CWG-Stewardship] multistakeholder principle was Re: [] FW:
> FW: CWG ... 2B
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> Hi,
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> I think we need to start from principles, as opposed to having a solution
> and making sure the principles fit the desired solution.
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> And if we are stating that we think 'one Stakeholder Group is more
> relevant than all other stakeholder types' and by virtue of that have
> primacy in decision making, then that should be stated explicitly in the
> principles section.   If it is already then I missed it.
>
> I prefer the equal-footing multistakeholder principle, but if there is
> near consensus for the one stakeholder above all stakeholders viewpoint, I
> would like to understand.
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> Thanks
>
> avri
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> On 15-Nov-14 01:33, Guru Acharya wrote:
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> Avri
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> I'm sure your viewpoints are not being ignored. Peace. I forgive you for
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> your sin.
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> Nobody is saying multi stakeholder compositions are not applicable or there
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> is consensus against it. Please look at strawmans 2 and 3.
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> I intact support a multi-stakeholder composition.
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> I'm just saying I don't agree there is consensus against a registry only
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> composition, which you seem to be eliminating by way of the principle that
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> you are suggesting.
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>  On 15 Nov 2014 11:51, "Avri Doria" <avri at acm.org> <avri at acm.org> wrote:
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>   Hi,
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> Apologies, guess I picked the wrong email.  I hope I can be forgiven for
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> this sin.
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> I guess that means that my viewpoints will just be ignored.
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> But if this group is able to decide that multistakeholder models are not
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> applicable, no matter which thread an email is attached to. I think we may
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> be in more trouble than I think we are.  Are you saying we have consensus
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> on a principle against commitment to the multistakeholder model?  How can
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> that be when the multistakeholder model is really one of the first
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> principles we much meet for an NTIA solution
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> avri
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> On 14-Nov-14 22:48, Guru Acharya wrote:
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> Avri - You got the wrong thread. This thread is for RFP2B and not the
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> principles.
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> And your suggested principle for a multi-stakeholder composition of the
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> oversight council appears to be in contradiction to Strawman 1 and ignores
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> the range of discussions that happened on this list about the composition.
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> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> <avri at acm.org> <avri at acm.org> <avri at acm.org> wrote:
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>   Hi,
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> I have suggested a few edits to the doc.  hope I did it in the mandated
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> manner.
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> the changes refer to
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> - transparency and requirements that any and all audit reports be
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> published.
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> - bottom-up modalities
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> - multistakeholder nature of any committee or oversight arrangements.
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> Hope I did not mess up any of the formatting.
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> avri
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