[CWG-Stewardship] drift in v5
avri at acm.org
Sat Jun 13 17:44:16 UTC 2015
I believe that I support the principle of separability as much as most.
That is why I believe the intellectual property and the domain name
should remain with the only organization whch will have repsonsiblities
to all the communities (albeit some indirectly thought the parent
company), i.e., PTI.
I just do not see any sense in turning it over to a trust that has
fiduciary responsibility to the IETF solely.
On 13-Jun-15 12:06, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> As for the
>> supposed contradiction you cite, first, I think this is letting
>> separability be the tail that wags the dog. I generally support
>> separability, but it doesn't trump looking at an issue in its own
> This strikes me as a purely rhetorical retort with no substantive content.
> Separability is not a "tail" but a fundamental accountability mechanism and it is unclear what you think the "dog" is here.
> You'd need to explain how PTI owning something rather than just using it is more important than separability, and you haven't done that.
>> (As previously noted, having PTI own the mark might make
>> separability slightly easier, since it would be with other assets that
>> the next IFO would need to receive in a scenario where PTI was
>> relieved of its duties in favor of a third party.)
> This is really, really unpersuasive. You're saying it would be easier to take the marks away from an entity that owns them than it would be for a higher-level entity (IETF Trust) to shift their use from one IFO to another. Sorry, not buying that.
> I think we have different notions of what "separability" means. To me it means a community and customer-driven decision to change operators, not a decision by ICANN to move assets from one corporation to another. This means that the IPR associated with IANA needs to be held in a place that is independent of any IFO. I think that's what it means to the other operational communities too.
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