[CWG-Stewardship] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing Director

Wed Jun 17 12:00:15 UTC 2015

+1 as well. Getting good clarity on the role is what is most important. IMO
i care less about what name the role gets called; A plane is "a plane" but
we all know that how they serve could differ.

Cheers!

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 6:31 AM, Martin Boyle <Martin.Boyle at nominet.org.uk>
wrote:

> I'd note the Sidley advice that the top officer title is something that
> could be left to the company to decide.  I would concur, but I do recognise
> Avri's point below.  Let's try to keep the role clear in our mind and in
> this I would strongly support Donna's analysis.
>
>
> Martin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> Sent: 16 June 2015 21:32
> To: cwg-stewardship at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing
> Director
>
> Hi,
>
> I personally prefer the title 'Executive Director,' as it it is much more
> symbolic of the role we expect people who lead non profits to take.  The
> term 'President' has too much of the visionary builder of greater companies
> bound up in it meaning.
>
> avri
>
>
> On 16-Jun-15 16:23, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> >
> > I like the sound of 'President Elise'.
> >
> >
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:*cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org
> > [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shatan
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:44 PM
> > *To:* Donna Austin
> > *Cc:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org; Client
> > *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing
> > Director
> >
> >
> >
> > Most likely, Elise would get a "better title" and be President of PTI.
> > That is the default title for the head of a corporation, profit or non
> > (and sometimes even a division -- see Akram Attalah, President, Global
> > Domains Division).  Elise wouldn't be the VP, IANA because she would
> > no longer be a Vice President (and employee) of ICANN; instead she'd
> > be the top dog of PTI.  (I continue to push against "Managing
> > Director" because it has no meaning or consistent usage in any US
> > corporate context, except in the banking and fund world, where it has
> > a different meaning.)
> >
> >
> >
> > An alternative often seen when referring to the top employee in US
> > non-profits is "Executive Director."  Subject to legal advice, that
> > might make everyone including me happy (though I personally find
> > President to be a more desirable and impressive title).  I'm sure
> > either President or Executive Director would provide continuity and
> > comfort while also providing clarity as to function in a California
> > Public Benefit Corporation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Donna Austin
> > <Donna.Austin at ariservices.com <mailto:Donna.Austin at ariservices.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From a RySG perspective, we had provided comments that supported PTI,
> > but on the premise that this would allow the continuation and
> > management of the IANA Department in much the same way as we know it
> > today. That's one of the reasons we supported an 'insider' board
> > because we felt this was one way to maintain some semblance of the
> > IANA Department that we know now and which provides services
> > considered by the customers to be satisfactory..
> >
> >
> >
> > I may have a different view from Chuck on this, but I would think that
> > the inclusion of the VP, IANA (currently Elise Gerich) or as 'IANA
> > Managing Director' if a title change is required, would make sense in
> > ensuring continuity and also providing some level of comfort for
> > current employees.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Donna
> >
> >
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> > *From:*cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org
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> > *To:* Mwendwa Kivuva
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> > <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
> > *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing
> > Director
> >
> >
> >
> > PTI is supposed to be an entity controlled by ICANN; in essence, a
> > subsidiary. This control is achieved by ICANN appointing 3 employees
> > of ICANN or PTI. They are not supposed to be "impartial"; they are
> > supposed to carry out ICANN's wishes.
> >
> >
> >
> > If there are 5 board members, more than one board member is clearly
> > NOT a majority. 3 board members is a majority.
> >
> > On Tuesday, June 16, 2015, Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com
> > <mailto:Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     On Jun 15, 2015 10:14 PM, "Greg Shatan" <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     > All:
> >     >
> >     > In the course of discussing the composition of the "inside"
> >     (controlled) PTI Board, I believe we have stated that three seats
> >     would be appointed by ICANN, with two being unspecified ICANN
> >     employees and one being the "IANA Managing Director."  I've been
> >     asked to clarify who this IANA Managing Director is (since this
> >     title does not currently exist).
> >
> >     Here is where there is a problem by having more than one ICANN
> >     employee as a board member at PTI. It would  certainly be
> >     difficult to maintain impartiality on issues that would have
> >     conflict of interest, and as you can see, more than one board
> >     member is already a majority
> >
> >
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