[CWG-Stewardship] Legal cost reality

Rinalia Abdul Rahim rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
Fri Jun 26 04:16:19 UTC 2015


To clear the confusion:

Sidley Austin LLP was retained in March 2015. The payment approved by the
Board for USD508,624.98 was for services rendered in March up to 31 March

It is understood that the work being done by external legal counsel is
important to assist the community. I supported the community's request for
external counsel at the end of the Public Board Meeting at ICANN 52.

All the Board is asking is that prudence is exercised in ensuring that
requests for legal advice are not frivolous given the cost. I believe there
are checks in place to ensure this within the CWG and CCWG.  It would be
good to receive confirmation of this.

Best regards,

On Jun 26, 2015 2:24 AM, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Chuck,
> I stand to be corrected, board seemed to imply monthly during their
> meeting.
> Regards
> sent from Google nexus 4
> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> On 25 Jun 2015 18:55, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:
>>  Sean,
>>  500k to date not per month.
>>  Chuck
>>  Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>> Date:06/25/2015 5:42 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net>
>> Cc: cwg-stewardship at icann.org
>> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Legal cost reality
>>  With due respect James, I am in no way belittling the work of legal
>> council. I am rather wondering how we as a community recognising this huge
>> cost did not better strategize on how/when to engage external council. The
>> amount that has been spent on all participants of the ccwg and cwg(for
>> remote/physical meetings) would seem to be competing with the total cost of
>> legal advice (perhaps legal would even be more).
>> The deed has been done and we can't rewrite history. My comment is
>> targeted more on the fact that we need to think of how we engage legal more
>> efficiently going forward.
>> For the record, when Greg said top notch council are expensive, 500k
>> monthly is just beyond my imagination!
>> Regards
>> sent from Google nexus 4
>> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>> On 25 Jun 2015 18:23, "James Gannon" <james at cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
>>>   Our legal advice has been critical to our process and Sidley have
>>> been crucial to our successes.
>>> I think we should be thanking them for their service, and yes top notch
>>> legal services are not cheap.
>>> It is most certainly something that I have no issue with the community
>>> exercising its prudence over however lets not limit ourselves in any way to
>>> engage with our counsel.
>>>  -James
>>>   From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Seun Ojedeji
>>> Date: Thursday 25 June 2015 18:15
>>> To: "cwg-stewardship at icann.org"
>>> Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Legal cost reality
>>>   Hi,
>>> I hope those who want to always push issues to external legal advice
>>> would appreciate the need to be strategic and prudent about this. Over
>>> 500,000USD already spent on Sidley is definitely not what we like ICANN to
>>> keep spending it's resources on.
>>> Regards
>>> sent from Google nexus 4
>>> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
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