[CWG-Stewardship] Notes, Recordings, Transcript DT-IPR Meeting on 24 November

Andrew Sullivan ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
Wed Nov 25 02:53:07 UTC 2015


Hi,

Because I'm apparently incompetent at modern GUIs, I had this in my
calendar later.  But this is good, because it'll give us a chance to
try working on the mailing list more completely.

> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZGSlKj-JSXe4T0wWv-hN6srDVOwhRJvQZzRpkGAAPk8/edit?usp=sharing>

I'm going through this.

There's now a note on I.1.a that staff are to come up with a number
for how much it'll cost to run a new trust.  I'm assuming this is a
diligence matter, and that we're all aware of the start up cost in
political, rather than monetary, terms that such a trust would exact.

Please tell me we don't take the "cost" problem as even remotely a
gating factor.  ICANN's Dublin meeting, according to the numbers
projected during the Plenary and Riverdance Spectacle, exceeded IETF's
annual budget.  I'm pretty sure we can find a way to fund the trust if
we need to.  The real question is whether we can design one widely
acceptable in just a few months.

Item I.2 doesn't seem to have reached closure, whereas I think we need
to answer the question in the opening.  What's the barrier here?

I'm alarmed by the text that has appeard in VI.1.  It seems to be
talking about "separation" of the assets from the Owner.  I think this
is totally incoherent, unless I misunderstand everything Greg has ever
said about trade marks.  The owner of the trade mark owns it, period.
I don't see how you can have a rule by which someone else (who is not
a government) has the ability to take some ownership interest away.
Can someone please explain?

A

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