[CWG-Stewardship] CWG Statistics

Thu Oct 15 13:37:14 UTC 2015

Hi Pranesh. This is extremely interesting. Look forward to you publishing
the data. Could you share how many people participated from each of the
BRICS countries?

Thanks for the suggestions Grace and Avri. Im running a script now to
spider through the mailman archives to capture the data.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:53 PM, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net>
wrote:

> I’d love to see this (For nothing other than personal curiosity)
>
> -jg
>
>
>
>
> On 13/10/2015, 5:20 p.m., "cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
> Pranesh Prakash" <cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
> pranesh at cis-india.org> wrote:
>
> >Dear all,
> >We at CIS did this, and included stats in our ICG submission:
> >https://comments.ianacg.org/pdf/submission/submission126.pdf (pg 11)
> >
> >>
> >> If one counts participation across the main lists where the final shape
> of the ICG proposal were thrashed out (ICANN’s ICG and CWG-Stewardship
> lists, the NRO’s IANAxfer and CRISP list, and the IETF’s IANAPLAN), then a
> total of 239 individuals participated. Of these 239, only 98 substantively
> contributed to the final shape of the ICG proposal, if one takes a count of
> 20 mails (admittedly, an arbitrary cut-off) as a substantive contribution,
> with 12 of these 98 being ICANN staff some of whom were largely performing
> an administrative function.
> >>
> >>   * Of these 98, 39 (or 1 in 4) were, as far as one could ascertain
> from public records, from a single country: the United States of America.
> >>
> >>   * Of these 98, 77 (or 8 in 10) were, as far as one could ascertain
> from public records, participants from countries which are part of the WEOG
> UN grouping (which includes Western Europe, US, Canada, Israel, Australia,
> and New Zealand), which only has developed countries. None of those who
> participated substantively were from the EEC (Eastern European) group and
> only 5 of 98 from GRULAC (Latin American and Caribbean Group).
> >>
> >>   * Of these 98, 77 (or 8 in 10) were male and 21 were female, as far
> as one could ascertain from public records.
> >>
> >>   * Of these 98, 76 (or 8 in 10) were identifiable as primarily being
> from industry or the technical community, as far as one could ascertain
> from public records, with only 4 (or 1 in 25) being readily identifiable
> as primarily speaking on behalf of governments.
> >>
> >
> >Pulling these stats together is not easy:
> >
> >1. The different mail archives are not all available in the same mbox
> >format, making it difficult to script for things such as the e-mail
> >address (since not all "From:" lines are actually the e-mail address
> >from which the mail has been sent).  Some lists don't allow for easy
> >downloading of their archives (the APNIC list on the IANA transition,
> >for instance, doesn't).  I had to use multiple scripts and then
> >painstakingly combine their data.
> >2. It is not always easy to say where a person is from, to determine
> >their sex as a binary, to say which stakeholder community they belong
> >to, etc.  There are also frequently overlaps.  So these are sometimes
> >difficult calls to make.
> >
> >We will be cleaning up the data and putting up the classification
> >spreadsheet soon, if you're interested.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Pranesh
> >
> >Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org> [2015-10-13 14:32:25 +0000]:
> >> Hi all ‹
> >>
> >> I¹m sorry for the delay in responding, but Avri seems to have addressed
> what
> >> I was intending to post.
> >>
> >> We do not have any more raw data other than what is publicly available.
> >> There are a few parts that you could use to compile the information you
> >> need:
> >> * Mailing list archives: https://community.icann.org/x/Wg3xAg. There
> are
> >> many CWG-Stewardship mailing lists, so depending on which one you use,
> your
> >> data sets will look different.
> >> * Attendance logs: https://community.icann.org/x/SQUdAw. We only built
> an
> >> Excel document for attendance on the full CWG-Stewardship meetings. The
> >> other meetings all have attendance tracked, but you would need to go to
> each
> >> meeting page if you wanted that data.
> >> * Diversity stats: https://community.icann.org/x/3zbxAg. This page
> shows the
> >> diversity of the CWG-Stewardship members and participants based on their
> >> SOIs.
> >> Hope this helps,
> >> Grace
> >>
> >> On 10/13/15, 10:22 AM, "cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
> Avri
> >> Doria" <cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org on behalf of avri at acm.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Given that the mailing list archives are available as are the
> attendance
> >>> sheets, I think that if this is for academic purposes, getting a
> student
> >>> who can to do the work, especially if they can code simple scripts,
> >>> would be possible.
> >>>
> >>> avri
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 12-Oct-15 14:55, Guru Acharya wrote:
> >>>>   Hi Grace,
> >>>>
> >>>>   If possible, I request the secretariat to
> >>>>   share country-wise statistics for active participants on the CWG
> >>>>   mailing list. By active participants, I mean people who sent more
> than
> >>>>   10 mails to the mailing list during the entire proposal development
> >>>>   phase. Additionally, I request to secretariat to share similar
> >>>>   country-wise statistics for participants who physically attended at
> >>>>   least 1 F2F meeting.
> >>>>
> >>>>   I understand this may be time consuming but this data will be
> >>>>   extremely helpful for academic assessment of participation by the
> >>>>   global multistakeholder community in the CWG proposal development
> process.
> >>>>
> >>>>   If such calculations are outside the scope of the secretariats
> >>>>   profile, I would request you to extract the raw data from mailman
> and
> >>>>   share it in an excel/sql/etc file.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Thanks!
> >>>>   Guru
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >Pranesh Prakash
> >Policy Director, Centre for Internet and Society
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