[CWG-Stewardship] Purpose of PTI

Fri Jul 15 14:47:05 UTC 2016

FWIW, this is an acceptable formulation.

Thanks for proposed wording Chuck

Regards

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Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On 15 Jul 2016 15:38, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:

> Would it work to make the following change:?  “The specific purpose of
> the Corporation is to operate exclusively for the benefit of, to perform
> the functions of and to carry out the purposes of the Internet Corporation
> for Assigned Names and Numbers (“*ICANN*”) related to the IANA services.”
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> I agree with Matthew that it is not PTI’s purpose to perform all of
> ICANN’s functions and purposes.
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> Chuck
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> *From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *matthew shears
> *Sent:* Friday, July 15, 2016 5:28 AM
> *To:* Yuko Green; cwg-stewardship at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Purpose of PTI
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> Hi Yuko - thanks.
>
> As I noted in the CWG chat yesterday I am uncomfortable with this
> definition of the purpose of PTI:  "The specific purpose of the Corporation
> is to operate exclusively for the benefit of, to perform the functions of
> and to carry out the purposes of the Internet Corporation for Assigned
> Names and Numbers (“*ICANN*”)."
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> This is very broad and very vague.   My understanding was that the purpose
> of the PTI subsidiary was to perform the IANA functions pursuant to an
> inter-company contract established between ICANN and PTI.  This is very
> different from the proposed language.  Of course we also need to see the
> inter company agreement to ensure that the purpose of PTI is similarly
> parametered.
>
> Matthew
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> On 14/07/2016 19:00, Yuko Green wrote:
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> Dear members of the CWG,
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> From today’s CWG call #82, we stated that we will provide the transcript
> from the IOTF call where we discussed about the purpose stated within the
> PTI Bylaws and Articles. Extracted below is the transcript and chat history
> specifically around this topic. The whole transcript is available at
> https://www.icann.org/uploads/iana_work_session_asset/attachment/373/1467913551526IOTF_Call__14_transcript_06JUL16.pdf
> and the AC room recording at https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p3qeid579y7/.
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>
> ****Transcript****
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> Paul Kane: In the articles of association, it says the sole function –
> apparently I haven’t read it, again I apologize – function of PTI is to
> serve ICANN. Historically the function of IANA has been to serve the
> community, ICANN just happens to be the contract to doing it. And I don’t
> know if that is correct, if that’s what’s in the articles of incorporation.
> But if that is, it sort of has lost the raison d’etre of PTI. It is not a
> service sector of ICANN because that makes it feel like a department. It’s
> actually trying to serve a broader community such as the naming community,
> the protocols and the numbers. But I haven’t read it so I will try and read
> it so I might be wrong.
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> Trang Nguyen: Thanks, Paul. Let me – so Section 3 of the articles says
> this – it does say that the specific purpose of PTI is to operate
> exclusively for the benefit of and to perform the functions of and carry
> out the purposes of ICANN. And I want to go back and double check that
> again the language that is in the ICANN bylaws that has been adopted
> because I think some of this is the reflection of what’s included in the
> ICANN bylaws. So we want to do that cross check and come back to this group
> and see how it aligns with – what’s in the ICANN bylaws. But that is
> currently what is reflected in the PTI articles of incorporation. There are
> some comments in the chat from James. Things that affect the agreement are
> done by contract with ICANN for protocol and numbers means that there needs
> to be language to that effect in the PTI articles…
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> James Gannon: So, yes, Paul, I had a similar comment from somebody else as
> well from the IETF area. And I think in I suppose philosophical principle,
> yes, it is a slight change but I think in the reality the fact that both
> the numbers and protocol communities will still contract with ICANN it
> needs to be very clear in PTI’s documents then that, yes, it is for the
> purposes of fulfilling the IANA functions it needs to be able to serve the
> owners of those contracts, which is ICANN still. So I think
> philosophically, yes, it doesn’t really sound very right, but I think for
> the realities of running PTI and for PTI to be accountable through the
> mechanisms that we’ve built up that there does need to be language like
> that inside the articles to make sure that it’s clear that the – those two
> communities have the right of PTI serving their needs but also then the
> accountability mechanism that we’ve put into ICANN are also then bound to
> PTI by that language going backwards. And I think Trang is right that it’s
> also reflected in the ICANN bylaws going downwards towards PTI.
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> Trang Nguyen: Thank you, James. And I see Russ has similar comments in
> the chat as well that the contract for the protocol parameters function as
> well as with the numbers are with ICANN and not PTI.
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> ****Chat****
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> Trang Nguyen:  The specific purpose of the Corporation is to operate
> exclusively for the benefit of, to perform the functions of, and to carry
> out the purposes of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
> Numbers, a California nonprofit public benefit corporation(“ICANN”).
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> James Gannon: I think this was Stephens comment yes? I think that the fact
> that the agreements are done via contact to ICANN for protocol and numbers
> means that there needs to be language to that effect in the PTI articles
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> James Gannon: (Sorry no mic)
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> Paul Kane: A cross check is welcome but I hope you see my point it is off
> target
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> Russ Housley: @Paul, the Numbers and Protocol Parameter communities have
> their agreements with ICANN, not PTI.
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> Paul Kane: Good Point Russ
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> Russ Housley: @Paul, ICANN is choosing to put that work in PTI.
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> Russ Housley: @Paul, so PTI is an affiliate of ICANN to perform all of
> that work
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> Paul Kane: ok -thanks
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> Regards,
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