[CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table

Tue Jun 28 07:06:30 UTC 2016

Agree with Matt and James.

Greg

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:42 AM, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net>
wrote:

> Agree with Matt for the record.
>
> -J
>
> From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Matthew Shears <
> mshears at cdt.org>
> Date: Tuesday 28 June 2016 at 09:34
> To: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> Cc: Lise Fuhr <lise.fuhr at difo.dk>, "cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <
> cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI
> Bylaws-AoI table
>
> To be clear I don't agree with the proposed change by Seun to 5.4 for the
> reasons that were fully discussed in the meeting in which we agreed the
> text.
>
> On Tuesday, 28 June 2016, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Co-Chairs,
>>
>> May I know if these comments of mine are received and would be
>> implemented as proposed especially as there is no opposition on the
>> suggestions from the list?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Sent from my LG G4
>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>> On 27 Jun 2016 01:49, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not
>>> come swallow  2 points from the final text.
>>>
>>> Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the
>>> following text:
>>> "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does
>>> the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed
>>> board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think
>>> i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of
>>> chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior
>>> and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case.
>>> Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question.
>>>
>>> Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not
>>> need additional officers therefore the board does not need this
>>> capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen
>>> implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below:
>>> "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board
>>> may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous
>>> votes from board subject to member(s) approval."
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <
>>> grace.abuhamad at icann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest
>>>> redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley.
>>>> Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Grace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *Grace Abuhamad*
>>>>
>>>> Manager, Public Policy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
>>>>
>>>> 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
>>>>
>>>> Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
>>>>
>>>> *LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY
>>>> UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW
>>>> <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE
>>>> <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *<iotf-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad <
>>>> grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM
>>>> *To: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com>, "iotf at icann.org" <
>>>> iotf at icann.org>
>>>> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI
>>>> table
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was
>>>> supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT
>>>> required….”.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments
>>>> before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Grace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *Grace Abuhamad*
>>>>
>>>> Manager, Public Policy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
>>>>
>>>> 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
>>>>
>>>> Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
>>>>
>>>> *LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY
>>>> UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW
>>>> <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE
>>>> <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com>
>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM
>>>> *To: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>, "iotf at icann.org" <
>>>> iotf at icann.org>
>>>> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
>>>> *Subject: *RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The edits look good to me.  Was the second option in Section 7.6.1
>>>> supposed to be deleted?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> “Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of
>>>> President.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties
>>>> by the board to the President.[1]
>>>> <#m_-5374238543218927457_m_4235065022592513090_m_6070105227189766713_m_6812292797163057305__msocom_1>
>>>>    [2]
>>>> <#m_-5374238543218927457_m_4235065022592513090_m_6070105227189766713_m_6812292797163057305__msocom_2>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by
>>>> the board to the President.”
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* iotf-bounces at icann.org [mailto:iotf-bounces at icann.org] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Grace Abuhamad
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM
>>>> *To:* iotf at icann.org
>>>> *Cc:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org
>>>> *Subject:* [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline
>>>> version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present
>>>> to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live
>>>> editing process!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --Grace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *Grace Abuhamad*
>>>>
>>>> Manager, Public Policy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
>>>>
>>>> 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
>>>>
>>>> Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
>>>>
>>>> *LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY
>>>> UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW
>>>> <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE
>>>> <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
>>>> *Date: *Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM
>>>> *To: *<iotf at icann.org>
>>>> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
>>>> *Subject: *Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to
>>>> take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI
>>>> Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call,
>>>> and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJEqcU/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to
>>>> have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship
>>>> meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee
>>>> would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation
>>>> into the PTI Bylaws.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Grace
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *Grace Abuhamad*
>>>>
>>>> Manager, Public Policy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
>>>>
>>>> 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
>>>>
>>>> Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
>>>>
>>>> *LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY
>>>> UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW
>>>> <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE
>>>> <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM
>>>> *To: *<iotf at icann.org>
>>>> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
>>>> *Subject: *Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the
>>>> CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have
>>>> matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting
>>>> from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the
>>>> IOTF’s comments at:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJEqcU/edit?usp=sharing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information.
>>>> Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on
>>>> the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF
>>>> at this stage.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my
>>>> understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in
>>>> time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following
>>>> group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the
>>>> responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Grace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *Grace Abuhamad*
>>>>
>>>> Manager, Public Policy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
>>>>
>>>> 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
>>>>
>>>> Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
>>>>
>>>> *LEARN MORE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>*. **STAY
>>>> UPDATED* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>*. *
>>>> *FOLLOW* <https://twitter.com/icann>*. **ENGAGE*
>>>> <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>*. *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *<cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Jonathan
>>>> Robinson <jrobinson at afilias.info>
>>>> *Organization: *Afilias
>>>> *Reply-To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson at afilias.info>
>>>> *Date: *Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM
>>>> *To: *"cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
>>>> *Subject: *[CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions &
>>>> Issues from Sidley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed
>>>> this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following
>>>> course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as
>>>> possible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1.       Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing
>>>> relevant input on the Sidley questions
>>>>
>>>> 2.       Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG
>>>> meeting discussions
>>>>
>>>> 3.       Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further
>>>> review / development
>>>>
>>>> 4.       Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review /
>>>> development
>>>>
>>>> 5.       Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley
>>>> for incorporation into IANA Bylaws
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank-you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lise & Jonathan
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should
>>>> have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to
>>>> wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays.
>>>>
>>>> for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI
>>>> mission/role etc.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web:
>>> http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng> Mobile: +2348035233535 **alt
>>> email: <http://goog_1872880453>seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng*
>>>
>>> Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action!
>>>
>>>
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