[CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table

Tue Jun 28 17:52:26 UTC 2016

Hi,

I assume it's the board votes that would determine who is more qualified
and not any external sources, other than that, my +1 to Chuck's suggested
edit.

Regards
Sent from my LG G4
Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On 28 Jun 2016 4:41 p.m., "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:

Greg/James,

Are you saying that you believe the chair must be one of the NomCom
appointees?  If so, what if neither of the non-Nom nominated directors is
as qualified as one of the ICANN appointed directors (excluding he PTI
President) or if the NomCom nominated directors are not able to commit the
extra time needed to be chair?  Why limit the possibilities?  It seems to
me that we would want the best qualified leader to serve as Board chair.

I agree with Seun’s concern but I would be okay with language along this
line:  “The Board chair should be one of the NomCom appointees unless they
are unable to serve in that capacity or if one of the other directors
(excluding the President) are more qualified.”

Chuck

*From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shatan
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:07 AM
*To:* James Gannon
*Cc:* Lise Fuhr; cwg-stewardship at icann.org

*Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI
Bylaws-AoI table

Agee with Matt and James.

Greg

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:42 AM, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net>
wrote:

Agree with Matt for the record.

-J

*From: *<cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Matthew Shears <
mshears at cdt.org>
*Date: *Tuesday 28 June 2016 at 09:34
*To: *Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
*Cc: *Lise Fuhr <lise.fuhr at difo.dk>, "cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <
cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
*Subject: *Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI
Bylaws-AoI table

To be clear I don't agree with the proposed change by Seun to 5.4 for the
reasons that were fully discussed in the meeting in which we agreed the
text.

On Tuesday, 28 June 2016, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Co-Chairs,

May I know if these comments of mine are received and would be implemented
as proposed especially as there is no opposition on the suggestions from
the list?

Regards

Sent from my LG G4
Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On 27 Jun 2016 01:49, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not
come swallow  2 points from the final text.

Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following
text:
"The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does
the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed
board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think
i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of
chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior
and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case.
Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question.

Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not
need additional officers therefore the board does not need this
capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen
implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below:
"The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board
may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous
votes from board subject to member(s) approval."

Regards

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
wrote:

Dear all,

Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest
redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley.
Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final.

Thank you,

Grace

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*From: *<iotf-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad <
grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
*Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM
*To: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com>, "iotf at icann.org" <iotf at icann.org
>
*Cc: *"cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
*Subject: *Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table

Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed
to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”.

I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before
circulating a new version in time for the CWG call.

Thank you,

Grace

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*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*

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Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638

*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *

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*From: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com>
*Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM
*To: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>, "iotf at icann.org" <
iotf at icann.org>
*Cc: *"cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
*Subject: *RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table

The edits look good to me.  Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed
to be deleted?

“Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President.

Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by
the board to the President.[1]
<#m_3446823907640759009_m_-5374238543218927457_m_42350650225925>   [2]
<#m_3446823907640759009_m_-5374238543218927457_m_42350650225925>

Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the
board to the President.”

Chuck

*From:* iotf-bounces at icann.org [mailto:iotf-bounces at icann.org
<iotf-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Grace Abuhamad
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM
*To:* iotf at icann.org
*Cc:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org
*Subject:* [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table

Dear all,

Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version
of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the
CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live
editing process!

--Grace

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*Grace Abuhamad*

Manager, Public Policy

*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*

801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006

Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638

*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *

*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY
UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW
<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE
<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *

*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
*Date: *Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM
*To: *<iotf at icann.org>
*Cc: *"cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
*Subject: *Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table

Dear all,

In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take
some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI
Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call,
and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJEqcU/edit?usp=sharing
.

I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have
CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on
Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then
be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI
Bylaws.

Thank you,

Grace

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*Grace Abuhamad*

Manager, Public Policy

*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*

801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006

Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638

*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *

*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY
UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW
<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE
<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *

*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
*Date: *Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM
*To: *<iotf at icann.org>
*Cc: *"cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
*Subject: *Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley

Dear all,

Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship
Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these
responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week.
The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments
at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJEqcU/edit?usp=sharing.

Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone
on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the
initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at
this stage.

I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding
is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during)
the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off,
the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley
for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.

Thank you,

Grace

-- 

*Grace Abuhamad*

Manager, Public Policy

*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*

801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006

Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638

*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *

*LEARN MORE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>*. **STAY
UPDATED* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>*. *
*FOLLOW* <https://twitter.com/icann>*. **ENGAGE*
<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>*. *

*From: *<cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <
jrobinson at afilias.info>
*Organization: *Afilias
*Reply-To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson at afilias.info>
*Date: *Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM
*To: *"cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
*Subject: *[CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions &
Issues from Sidley

All,

The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on
last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself.

Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of
action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible.

1.       Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant
input on the Sidley questions

2.       Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG
meeting discussions

3.       Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review /
development

4.       Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review /
development

5.       Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for
incorporation into IANA Bylaws

Thank-you

Lise & Jonathan
------------------------------

I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have
this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait
to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays.

for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI
mission/role etc.

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