[Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Privacy/Proxy RDDS labeling document attached for 14 Feb IRT call

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Mon Feb 13 17:20:51 UTC 2017


I think this proposal is shooting at sparrows with cannons, in other 
words: it makes too much out of a small thing, it ôverengineers a simple 
issue. Labeling as such means nothing more that ensuring that when 
looking at the whois it has to visible that the domain is under privacy. 
In most cases, this is achieved by saying so in the registrant name 
sections.

Lets try to keep this lightweight without having to send this to our 
tech teams to achieve something that is already achievable in the 
current whois.

The fields also seem to be over-specific as the WG never specified any 
information beyond the fact that a privacy service is used to be 
included in the whois.

Best,

Volker


Am 13.02.2017 um 17:29 schrieb theo geurts:
> +1 Steve
> That would be good to know.
>
> Though the proposal is very good in the sense that it becomes very 
> clear WHOIS output wise, I am not sure however how that would work 
> with third party service providers in obtaining that information.
>
> Something for tomorrow :)
>
> On a side note, I did not receive this email, until Steve replied to it.
>
> Theo
>
>
> On 13-2-2017 16:44, Metalitz, Steven wrote:
>>
>> Amy, did the staff consider alternatives that would not involve any 
>> additional new fields  -- for instance requiring certain words or 
>> characters in entries in existing fields?  This would build upon the 
>> status quo in which a fairly reliable indication can be gleaned  from 
>> the Whois record as to whether a proxy/privacy registration is involved.
>>
>> Steve Metalitz
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>> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2017 12:27 PM
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>> *Subject:* [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Privacy/Proxy RDDS labeling document 
>> attached for 14 Feb IRT call
>>
>> Hello, All,
>>
>> Attached is an initial discussion proposal for Tuesday’s IRT call, 
>> exploring how we could potentially implement the Final Report’s 
>> recommendation that, “To the extent that this is feasible, domain 
>> name registrations involving P/P service providers should be clearly 
>> labelled as such in WHOIS.” (See Final Report, p. 9)
>>
>> To summarize, we have explored several possible alternatives for 
>> implementing this recommendation. The attached proposes to add four 
>> new fields, but also identifies the other possible alternatives that 
>> were considered.
>>
>> We are seeking your feedback on any and all elements of this 
>> proposal, including (1) the specific fields to be added; (2) the 
>> location(s) of the new fields; and (3) ensuring that this can be 
>> implemented from an operational perspective (particularly if/when a 
>> provider is not affiliated with the registrar). Once we have 
>> discussed the new fields and the preferred locations for these 
>> fields, we will ensure the final product is consistent with the new 
>> CL&D requirements.
>>
>> On Tuesday, I’ll run through the proposal briefly and also note the 
>> other alternatives that were considered but not included here. The 
>> rest of the call will be dedicated to your discussion and feedback on 
>> this. Please share any preliminary feedback on the list and I look 
>> forward to talking with you on Tuesday.
>>
>> Best,
>> Amy
>>
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