[Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Updated PP Policy Section 1, update from 1/10 IRT call

Thu Jan 12 07:12:37 UTC 2017

Good day all,

I agree with Roger's ideas. Greg is also correct that registrars should 
treat it as inaccurate whois, the registrar should notify the registrant 
and give a predetermined time limit to correct the issue. If not 
corrected the domain name should be suspended, exactly the way it's done 
with inaccurate whois.

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On 2017/01/11 11:31 PM, DiBiase, Gregory via Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl wrote:
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> Hello All,
>
> Roger’s approach makes sense to me.  Registrars should treat 
> registrations with unaccredited providers as inaccurate Whois and 
> allow the registrant to decide on the appropriate remedy.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
> *From:* gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org 
> [mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Roger D 
> Carney
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:07 AM
> *To:* gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Updated PP Policy Section 1, 
> update from 1/10 IRT call
>
> Good Afternoon,
>
> I think Theo is going down the right path and it should be simple, but 
> I would like to add some additional ideas/thoughts.
>
> Theo mentions contacting the registrant and having them select/choose 
> an accredited provider. I think we would want to leave the remedy 
> solution up to the registrant, e.g. replace with an accredited 
> provider, use their own information, delete the registration…
>
> One additional thought was on awareness/learning/teaching. One good 
> reason I could see to notify ICANN of this incident is for an 
> awareness/teaching opportunity. A provider may not be aware they are 
> required to be accredited. I think that if a Registrar detects a 
> pattern of use of an un-accredited provider they should notify ICANN 
> and ICANN would work with the identified provider on 
> awareness/accreditation.
>
> Thanks
>
> Roger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org 
> <mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org> 
> [mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Amy Bivins
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:49 AM
> To: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl at icann.org <mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Updated PP Policy Section 1, update 
> from 1/10 IRT call
>
> Thanks so much for this feedback, Theo. I'm interested to hear what 
> other members of the IRT think about this--do you think this would 
> fulfil the intent of the PDP WG and/or do you have other thoughts?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Amy
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org 
> <mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org> 
> [mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of gtheo
>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:48 AM
>
> To: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl at icann.org <mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl at icann.org>
>
> Subject: Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Updated PP Policy Section 1, update 
> from 1/10 IRT call
>
> Hi Amy, all,
>
> Looking at C3, I think we can approach this more low key and might not 
> require a sub team for this section.
>
> Registrars already deal with made up privacy services by Registrant 
> for whatever reason, and when the Registrar becomes aware, most of us 
> treat it as an inaccurate whois and apply current procedures. Nothing 
> new so far.
>
> The same logic can be applied when a Registrar becomes aware that 
> domains are being registered through an unaccredited P/P service.
>
> The Registrar contacts the reseller or Registrant to correct the 
> situation and use an accredited alternative P/P service within 15 days.
>
> I do not think we should come up with a system where we are going to 
> report non-accredited P/P services to ICANN and create a lot of work 
> for nothing. I expect we all got better things to do.
>
> Am I missing anything?
>
> Theo
>
> Amy Bivins schreef op 2017-01-11 02:30 AM:
>
> > Thank you for catching that, Greg! I added that. Also, I noticed that
>
> > I did not delete the sentence before this as I should have, given that
>
> > this new sentence replaces it, so I also made that change. The updated
>
> > document is attached.
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> >
>
> > Best,
>
> >
>
> > Amy
>
> >
>
> > FROM: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org 
> <mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org>
>
> > [mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org] ON BEHALF OF DiBiase,
>
> > Gregory via Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl
>
> > SENT: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:04 PM
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> > TO: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl at icann.org <mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl at icann.org>
>
> > SUBJECT: Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Updated PP Policy Section 1, update
>
> > from 1/10 IRT call
>
> >
>
> > Hi Amy,
>
> >
>
> > In section 1.e.i I think we need to reference privacy service
>
> > customers.  We added privacy service providers but not their
>
> > customers.
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> >
>
> > "This Policy does not distinguish between Proxy Service Customers who
>
> > are engaged in commercial or non-commercial activity, and does not
>
> > require any accredited privacy or proxy service provider to do so."
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> >
>
> > Thanks,
>
> >
>
> > Greg
>
> >
>
> > FROM: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org 
> <mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org>
>
> > [mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces at icann.org] ON BEHALF OF Amy Bivins
>
> > SENT: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:18 AM
>
> > TO: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl at icann.org <mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl at icann.org>
>
> > SUBJECT: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Updated PP Policy Section 1, update
>
> > from 1/10 IRT call
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> >
>
> > Hello, All,
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> >
>
> > Thanks so much for your active participation on our IRT call today--I
>
> > think we can all agree that we made substantial progress! I am
>
> > attaching an updated draft of Section 1 of the policy, incorporating
>
> > edits after our call today and some new comments that were received
>
> > after the Friday deadline.  IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON
>
> > THIS, PLEASE SEND THEM TO THE LIST THIS WEEK WHILE THE DISCUSSION IS
>
> > STILL FRESH ON EVERYONE’S MINDS. I CLEANED UP THIS DOCUMENT BY
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> > DELETING THE COMMENTS AND MAKING A COUPLE OF EDITS THAT I BELIEVE WERE
>
> > ADDRESSED ON THE CALL (BUT IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ANY CHANGES THAT WERE
>
> > MADE PLEASE LET ME KNOW).
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> >
>
> > For those who were not on the call, please review the call materials
>
> > and listen to the recording this week. We had a very robust
>
> > discussion.
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> >
>
> > There was general support on the call to begin meeting weekly, so we
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> > will update our meeting schedule to start that next week. If anyone
>
> > who was not on the call wishes to weigh in on this, please reply to
>
> > the list. As you will hear on the recording, there was general
>
> > agreement on the call to work to expedite our pace, to the extent that
>
> > we can without sacrificing the quality of our output. So the first
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> > step on that is to start meeting weekly.
>
> >
>
> > I will distribute materials for next week's call no later than Monday,
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> > and the materials from today's call should be up on the wiki shortly.
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> > If you have questions or comments please don't hesitate to contact me
>
> > directly or reply to the list (preferred, so that everyone can see).
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> >
>
> > Also, a reminder that any feedback on the LEA framework principles
>
> > document (distributed to the LEA issues subteam and available on the
>
> > wiki) should be sent to the list NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, 13 JANUARY. And
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> > I will be following up with the registrars who spoke up on the call
>
> > about starting subteam work related to developing a proposed process
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> > that we will fit in to Section 1 C (when a registrar/reseller becomes
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> > aware of registrations involving an unaccredited privacy or proxy
>
> > service).
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> >
>
> > Best,
>
> >
>
> > Amy
>
> >
>
> > AMY E. BIVINS
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> >
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> > Registrar Policy Services Manager
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> >
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> > Registrar Services and Industry Relations
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> > Email: amy.bivins at icann.org <mailto:amy.bivins at icann.org>
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