[Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Follow-Up on Yesterday's PP IRT Discussion

Amy Bivins amy.bivins at icann.org
Tue Sep 4 12:25:05 UTC 2018


Thanks, Volker, for these detailed suggestions. If others have specific recommended edits or comments on these, please let me know by your EOD tomorrow and I'll distribute a markup of the spec before we meet on Thursday.

Best,
Amy

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Agree with Volker, thanks for pointing this out.

Theo

Volker Greimann schreef op 2018-09-04 01:52 PM:
> Hi Amy,
> 
> re: temporary specification. Privacy/Proxy services are not bound by 
> the current temp spec and will not be bound  once accredited as their 
> services are out of scope of the spec:
> 
> Please review 1.2 of the temp Spec: "1.2. This Temporary Specification 
> applies to all gTLD Registry Operators and ICANN-accredited 
> Registrars."
> 
> That's it. All additions of clauses based on the temp spec must 
> therefore be removed again before we can go to public comment.
> 
> 
> Also, here are a few suggested additional edits:
> 
> 3.2.2 During the Term of this agreement and for one year thereafter *- 
> or the maximum duration allowed by applicable law, if shorter* - 
> Provider shall ...
> 
> 3.3 -remove in its entirety - we never proposed a public access RDS 
> system by privacy services in the WG. It is also unclear whom the 
> license is supposed to be granted to.
> 
> 3.4. Add: This requirement is void if the data described in Sections
> [3.3.1 through 3.3.4] is already being escrowed by the sponsoring 
> registrar.
> 
> 3.5.3 Move information requirements to 3.8, unless a specific notice 
> is absolutely required.
> 
> 3.5.3.3 Replace by: Provider shall provide appropriate notice to a 
> Customer upon each initial agreement regarding a Registered Name for 
> which Provider is providing the Services. Such a notice should provide 
> all legally required information in accordance with applicable data 
> privacy laws (optional: which may include: 3.5.3.3.1, 3.5.3.3.2, 
> 3.5.3.3.3, 3.5.3.3.4, 3.5.3.3.5, 3.5.3.3.6, 3.5.3.3.9, 3.5.3.3.10, 
> 3.5.3.3.11, 3.5.3.3.13 (add: if applicable), 3.5.3.3.14.)
> 
> 3.5.3.4: Remove completely, as this is invalid forced consent.
> 
> 3.5.3.8 Remove: Unnecessary as already included in registration 
> agreements. No need for duplication of representation.
> 
> 3.6.1 change $4,000 to $400
> 
> 3.17. add at the end: ...and to the extent permitted under applicable 
> law.
> 
> 3.18.2 Add: Provider shall not be required to allow transfers to 
> registrars it has no agreement with as long as its data remains in the 
> RDS at the time the transfer is requested.
> 
> 7.2. Please add data processing equivalency language. Also remove the 
> reference to the "specification in effect".
> 
> Spec 2, Remove Sections 1.2.5, 1.3.1,1.3.2, 1.3.3, 1.3.5 - irrelevant 
> for pp services.
> 
> under Section 2 add: "...provided the Provider and the services 
> provided by it are in scope of such a temporary policy."
> 
> Spec 8: Strike then entire thing and replace it by general language 
> that required provider to process data in accordance with any 
> requirements of applicable law.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 31.08.2018 um 21:09 schrieb Amy Bivins:
>> 
>> Dear Colleagues,
>> 
>> Following up on our discussion yesterday, I checked with the Legal 
>> team about a couple of items that were discussed.
>> 
>>  1. With respect to the proposed edits to the PPAA that are related to
>>     data processing (see, e.g. Section 3.5.3 of the contract and the
>>     new draft Specification 8), provisions on these topics must be
>>     included in this contract, though these can be edited based on
>>     your feedback.
>> 
>> If you have suggested edits to these new provisions, please send them 
>> to the list and we can discuss them on the call next week. If, as 
>> discussed yesterday, you believe the inclusion of these provisions 
>> raises more fundamental questions about status, in light of the 
>> pending ePDP on similar topics, we can also discuss that.
>> 
>> As a reminder, the way the PPAA is drafted, any new ICANN Policy that 
>> is in conflict with current provisions (GDPR-related or otherwise) 
>> would supersede any conflicting provisions in this contract.
>> 
>>  2. On the overall timeline, and additional deliverables, any
>>     additional GDPR-related changes will be based on IRT feedback. We
>>     have a couple of additional discussion topics that we didn’t reach
>>     last week, which could require additional PPAA changes. We’ll
>>     discuss these next week:
>>      1. Are the disclosure frameworks intended to give Providers
>>         limited or no discretion on disclosure if other requirements
>>         in the framework are met?
>>      2. What should requirements be for a Provider’s logging of
>>         disclosure requests from third parties?
>> 
>> We are continuing to review the contract for any copy-editing related 
>> issues, and I expect we will finish with those in the next week or so.
>> 
>> I hope this is helpful. Please continue to consider these issues and 
>> share any feedback you have on-list. We can pick up on these issues 
>> next week.
>> 
>> Thanks, and have a great weekend!
>> 
>> Amy
>> 
>> *Amy E. Bivins*
>> 
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