Apologies for lateness, reading through - all I can say is very thorough Volker, I support all amendments.
I also strongly back Volkers 4.6.1 comment, the fees were never discussed in the original WG, nor if memory serves were they put into the final report, lastly, in Dublin, ICANN54 were they ever even mentioned. I believe it is unjust that ICANN should underhandedly put these in. Totally unacceptable.
As Cyrus was so keen to push this back to GNSO - I would support that too.
My last point is ICANN "Fee workings" that have been provided to the IRT has not been substantive enough - I know I am flogging a dead horse but you have been told by MANY people now.
Kind regards,
Chris
From: "Volker Greimann" <vgreimann at key-systems.net>
To: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl at icann.org
Sent: Tuesday, 4 September, 2018 12:52:48
Subject: Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Follow-Up on Yesterday's PP IRT Discussion
Hi Amy,
re: temporary specification. Privacy/Proxy services are not bound by the current temp spec and will not be bound once accredited as their services are out of scope of the spec:
Please review 1.2 of the temp Spec: "1.2. This Temporary Specification applies to all gTLD Registry Operators and ICANN -accredited Registrars."
That's it. All additions of clauses based on the temp spec must therefore be removed again before we can go to public comment.
Also, here are a few suggested additional edits:
3.2.2 During the Term of this agreement and for one year thereafter - or the maximum duration allowed by applicable law, if shorter - Provider shall ...
3.3 -remove in its entirety - we never proposed a public access RDS system by privacy services in the WG. It is also unclear whom the license is supposed to be granted to.
3.4. Add: This requirement is void if the data described in Sections [3.3.1 through 3.3.4] is already being escrowed by the sponsoring registrar.
3.5.3 Move information requirements to 3.8, unless a specific notice is absolutely required.
3.5.3.3 Replace by: Provider shall provide appropriate notice to a Customer upon each initial agreement regarding a Registered Name for which Provider is providing the Services. Such a notice should provide all legally required information in accordance with applicable data privacy laws (optional: which may include: 3.5.3.3.1, 3.5.3.3.2, 3.5.3.3.3, 3.5.3.3.4, 3.5.3.3.5, 3.5.3.3.6, 3.5.3.3.9, 3.5.3.3.10, 3.5.3.3.11, 3.5.3.3.13 (add: if applicable), 3.5.3.3.14.)
3.5.3.4: Remove completely, as this is invalid forced consent.
3.5.3.8 Remove: Unnecessary as already included in registration agreements. No need for duplication of representation.
3.6.1 change $4,000 to $400
3.17. add at the end: ...and to the extent permitted under applicable law.
3.18.2 Add: Provider shall not be required to allow transfers to registrars it has no agreement with as long as its data remains in the RDS at the time the transfer is requested.
7.2. Please add data processing equivalency language. Also remove the reference to the "specification in effect".
Spec 2, Remove Sections 1.2.5, 1.3.1,1.3.2, 1.3.3, 1.3.5 - irrelevant for pp services.
under Section 2 add: "...provided the Provider and the services provided by it are in scope of such a temporary policy."
Spec 8: Strike then entire thing and replace it by general language that required provider to process data in accordance with any requirements of applicable law.
Am 31.08.2018 um 21:09 schrieb Amy Bivins:
Dear Colleagues,
Following up on our discussion yesterday, I checked with the Legal team about a couple of items that were discussed.
1. With respect to the proposed edits to the PPAA that are related to data processing (see, e.g. Section 3.5.3 of the contract and the new draft Specification 8), provisions on these topics must be included in this contract, though these can be edited based on your feedback.
If you have suggested edits to these new provisions, please send them to the list and we can discuss them on the call next week. If, as discussed yesterday, you believe the inclusion of these provisions raises more fundamental questions about status, in light of the pending ePDP on similar topics, we can also discuss that.
As a reminder, the way the PPAA is drafted, any new ICANN Policy that is in conflict with current provisions (GDPR-related or otherwise) would supersede any conflicting provisions in this contract.
1. On the overall timeline, and additional deliverables, any additional GDPR-related changes will be based on IRT feedback. We have a couple of additional discussion topics that we didn’t reach last week, which could require additional PPAA changes. We’ll discuss these next week:
1. Are the disclosure frameworks intended to give Providers limited or no discretion on disclosure if other requirements in the framework are met?
2. What should requirements be for a Provider’s logging of disclosure requests from third parties?
We are continuing to review the contract for any copy-editing related issues, and I expect we will finish with those in the next week or so.
I hope this is helpful. Please continue to consider these issues and share any feedback you have on-list. We can pick up on these issues next week.
Thanks, and have a great weekend!
Amy
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