[GNSO-Accuracy-ST] Level Setting
Alan Greenberg
alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Tue Mar 15 23:38:44 UTC 2022
"Under the GDPR, as the other extreme, data is
fully 100% accurate if it "accurately" reflects
the data provided by the registrant."
GDPR (Article 5, Section 1(d)) says that "every
reasonable step must be taken to ensure that
personal data that are inaccurate, having regard
to the purposes for which they are processed, are
erased or rectified without delay"
Alan
At 2022-03-07 08:26 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
>Hi Michael,
>
>I do not understand your hesitation to call it a
>definition, or even a working definition as that
>is the exact terminology that the council has
>tasked us with. If we cannot even agree on a
>definition, how are we supposed to make progress
>on the more complicated issues?
>
>As to the question of the term of accuracy, I
>believe we have already established that there
>are varying interpretations, and ultimately, our
>definition within the ICANN context has to flow
>from the definition. Looking at dictionaries may
>be helpful, but does not solve the conundrum of
>context. I disagree with Stephanie that accuracy
>needs to be a binary choice as there can be
>various levels of accuracy in our context.
>
>For example, a data set that just uses the wrong
>formatting may not be 100% accurate in the
>dictionary sense, but is still accurate enough
>to qualify for "sufficiently accurate to meet
>the purposes", even if it is not fully accurate
>in the meaning of the 2013 RAA, which may need
>some revision to be more generous towards
>registrants in some cases. Under the GDPR, as
>the other extreme, data is fully 100% accurate
>if it "accurately" reflects the data provided by the registrant.
>
> So to answer your Question #1:
>I feel that option (b) "Degree of correctness"
>is a better reflection of the facts on the ground than a binary choice.
>
>
>
>--
>Volker A. Greimann
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>On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 8:32 PM Michael Palage
><<mailto:michael at palage.com>michael at palage.com> wrote:
>
>Hello All,
>
>
>
>I am looking forward to a productive ICANN73 public session tomorrow.
>
>
>
>I spent the past several days trying to digest
>all of the exchanges that took place last
>Thursday. While I think we are close to wrapping
>up our work on Assignments 1 & 2, I think it
>would be constructive to quickly level set and
>make sure we are all on the same page to minimize potential future confusion.
>
>
>
>Part of my level setting involved going back to
>the original GNSO Council’s charge to the
>Scoping Team which asked is there “an agreed
>definition of registration data accuracy and, if
>not, consider what working definitions should be
>used in the context of the Scoping Team's
>deliberations.†See
><https://community.icann.org/display/AST/2.+Council+Instructions+to+Scoping+Team>https://community.icann.org/display/AST/2.+Council+Instructions+to+Scoping+Team
>
>
>
>
>This task at first blush seems simple enough,
>but as we have learned there have been several
>concerns raised in connection with the use of
>the term “definition†and the meaning of
>“accuracy.†Therefore, instead of using the
>term “definition†as proposed by the GNSO
>Council I propose that we use the phrase
>“current contractual requirements and
>enforcement construct.†I believe this should
>meet the concerns of the RrSG that have
>repeatedly raised concerns about “providing a
>definition†and the concerns of the GAC and
>others about how a definition might bias future discussions.
>
>
>
>Is there any objection to us using the phrase
>“current contractual requirements and
>enforcement construct?†If so please explain
>your objection and proposed alternative suggestion.
>
>
>
>Next we need to tackle what I have deemed the
>accuracy conundrum. The intervention by
>Stephanie this past week reminded me of some
>previous research that I was doing which I
>decided to revisit. I think Stephanie hit the
>nail on the head when she talked about how
>“accuracy†to most people conveys a binary
>choice, e.g. the data is accurate or is the data
>inaccurate. It is a black or white answer with
>no room for grey. In fact this seemed to align
>closely with the RrSG proposed “current
>contractual requirements and enforcement
>construct.†If the data collected meets
>syntactical validation and either the email or
>phone number was operationally verified, then
>the data provided by the Registrant was
>“accurate†per their interpretation of the 2013 RAA.
>
>
>
>So I decided to spend a couple of hours
>researching the definition and origins of the
>word “accuracy†online and with an old
>school trip to the local library. I believe this
>definition of the word “accuracy†best
>describes the conundrum that we as a group find ourselves.
>
>
>
>noun, plural
>
>1. the condition or quality of being
>true, correct, or exact; freedom from error or
>defect; precision or exactness; correctness.
>
>2. Chemistry, Physics. the extent to
>which a given measurement agrees with the
>standard value for that measurement. Compare precision (def. 6).
>
>3. Mathematics. the degree of
>correctness of a quantity, expression, etc. Compare precision (def. 5).
>
>
>
>Source Dictionary.com
>
>
>
>Now the first definition “being true, correct,
>or exact; freedom from error or defect†is a
>rather high bar, particularly if you are
>applying this bar to all registration data
>elements processed like some working group
>members have advocated. However, that bar is
>substantially lower if free from defect simply
>means that the data collected by the Registrar
>was syntactically correct and a Registrar at a
>point in time got an affirmative response from
>either telephone number or an email.
>
>
>
>Alternatively, the third definition of a
>“degree of correctness†suggests something
>other than a binary accurate or inaccurate
>response. Therefore to help steer our future
>discussions I would like everyone to answer the following question:
>
>
>
>Question #1
>
>
>
>For purposes of our Working Group the term accuracy should be defined as:
>
>
>
>[ ] true, correct and free from error; or
>
>
>
>[ ] degree of correctness;
>
>
>
>(PICK ONE)
>
>
>
>I think once we get clarity and/or agreement on
>these points, we should have a more clearly
>defined path forward for our post ICANN73 call.
>
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>
>
>Michael
>
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