<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Scott, <br></div><div><br></div><div>we cannot apply a general definition to the term accuracy as it must be framed in the purposes that the data is collected from the registrant for. As you say,
<span style="font-size:11pt">a standards based perspective </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(32,33,34);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%">of "the
usefulness, accuracy, and correctness of data for its application</span> may apply but only to the purposes that have been clearly outlined in the prior PDP work, e.g. the EPDP. As such, for the general public, contactibility comes into play, e.g. can you contact the registrant of record using this data.</div><div><br></div><div>In your specific case of what amounts to identity theft, e.g. a third party pretending to be someone else, the essential question is who actually is the registrant of record in these cases. Is it the shadowy figure behind the curtain refusing to reveal itself or is it the entity listed as the registrant. <br></div><div><br></div><div>In the past, we have always held the registrant of record to the the legitimate owner of a domain name, regardless of whether he/she/it has triggered the registration as this means that they can assert full control over the domain and its use when they notice or are notified of the situation, including ordering its deletion or transfer to a complainant. <br></div><div><br></div><div>In that context, the contactibility of the registrant would be maintained even if the data is not actually that of the entity that executed the registration. It is essentially a case of agency without authority. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div> <br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span lang="EN-US">-- <br>Volker A. Greimann<br>General Counsel and Policy Manager<br><b>KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH</b><br><br>T: +49 6894 9396901<br>M: +49 6894 9396851<br>F: +49 6894 9396851<br>W: </span><a href="http://www.key-systems.net/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">www.key-systems.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><br><br>Key-Systems GmbH is a company registered at the local court of Saarbruecken, Germany with the registration no. HR B 18835<br>CEO: Oliver Fries and Robert Birkner<br><br>Part of the CentralNic Group PLC (LON: CNIC) a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358.<br><br></span><span style="font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(248,249,250)">This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended only for the person(s) directly addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, transmission, distribution, or other forms of dissemination is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete this email with any files that may be attached.</span></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Michael:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Stephanie’s reference earlier to data quality reminded me that when I started looking at the assignments here on accuracy scoping and definitions back in November, I too hit the books but I choose the online
library of Wikipedia for a quick study. I ended up at a page on data quality which considered accuracy as an element. I share the link now because it provides some useful context to further this stage of discussion and the information also shows that the determination
of data quality varies depending on the perspective of who is using it and who is managing it, etc. Among the definitions they provide: from a standards based perspective </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(32,33,34);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%">"the
usefulness, accuracy, and correctness of data for its application" </span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(32,33,34);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%">so I guess I will I will go with your correctness option as that appears the closer of your two options. They also provide
from a business perspective: quality data </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(32,33,34);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%">exhibits "'conformance to standards' that have been set, so that fitness for use is achieved”</span><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_quality" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_quality</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%">For those who suggest that a registrant’s data quality submitted is good enough so long as we can contact them I think we still fall short of an important element of quality,
accuracy or correctness: reliability.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%">What if we contact the wrong “them”.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%">What if the registrant’s name submitted by the submerged account holder is yours, mine or any member on this list but its none of us who submitted it?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%">Is that data accurate ?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%">Is that the quality of data that we should accept as “good enough”?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%">That ICANN and its global user constituency should rely on?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%">And as for costs, what about the costs to rightsholders, who now have to sue even to obtain the true name and jurisdiction of the one who abuses the rightsholder’s identity,
embodied in their business name or mark. But those are just the secondary costs. Lets not overlook the primary costs, often incurred even before the rightsholder has been alerted to the bad actor’s abuse: 1) damages to business reputation, 2) fake substandard
goods or services, and 3)phished identities and financial data of unsuspecting customers.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%">Privacy should be protected; fabricated anonymity to encourage identity impersonation, fraud and phishing and assist in evading detection and liability for abuse should not.</span><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Scott<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"> GNSO-Accuracy-ST <<a href="mailto:gnso-accuracy-st-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-accuracy-st-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Palage<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 6, 2022 2:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-accuracy-st@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-accuracy-st@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [GNSO-Accuracy-ST] Level Setting<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hello All,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I am looking forward to a productive ICANN73 public session tomorrow.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I spent the past several days trying to digest all of the exchanges that took place last Thursday. While I think we are close to wrapping up our work on Assignments 1 & 2, I think it would be constructive
to quickly level set and make sure we are all on the same page to minimize potential future confusion.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Part of my level setting involved going back to the original GNSO Council’s charge to the Scoping Team which asked is there “an agreed definition of registration data accuracy and, if not, consider what working
definitions should be used in the context of the Scoping Team's deliberations.” See
<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/AST/2.+Council+Instructions+to+Scoping+Team" target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/display/AST/2.+Council+Instructions+to+Scoping+Team</a>
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">This task at first blush seems simple enough, but as we have learned there have been several concerns raised in connection with the use of the term “definition” and the meaning of “accuracy.” Therefore, instead
of using the term “definition” as proposed by the GNSO Council I propose that we use the phrase “current contractual requirements and enforcement construct.” I believe this should meet the concerns of the RrSG that have repeatedly raised concerns about “providing
a definition” and the concerns of the GAC and others about how a definition might bias future discussions.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Is there any objection to us using the phrase “current contractual requirements and enforcement construct?” If so please explain your objection and proposed alternative suggestion.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Next we need to tackle what I have deemed the accuracy conundrum. The intervention by Stephanie this past week reminded me of some previous research that I was doing which I decided to revisit. I think Stephanie
hit the nail on the head when she talked about how “accuracy” to most people conveys a binary choice, e.g. the data is accurate or is the data inaccurate. It is a black or white answer with no room for grey. In fact this seemed to align closely with the RrSG
proposed “current contractual requirements and enforcement construct.” If the data collected meets syntactical validation and either the email or phone number was operationally verified, then the data provided by the Registrant was “accurate” per their interpretation
of the 2013 RAA.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">So I decided to spend a couple of hours researching the definition and origins of the word “accuracy” online and with an old school trip to the local library. I believe this definition of the word “accuracy”
best describes the conundrum that we as a group find ourselves. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">noun, plural <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">1. the condition or quality of being true, correct, or exact; freedom from error or defect; precision or exactness; correctness.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">2. Chemistry, Physics. the extent to which a given measurement agrees with the standard value for that measurement. Compare precision (def. 6).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">3. Mathematics. the degree of correctness of a quantity, expression, etc. Compare precision (def. 5).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Source Dictionary.com<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Now the first definition “being true, correct, or exact; freedom from error or defect” is a rather high bar, particularly if you are applying this bar to all registration data elements processed like some
working group members have advocated. However, that bar is substantially lower if free from defect simply means that the data collected by the Registrar was syntactically correct and a Registrar at a point in time got an affirmative response from either telephone
number or an email. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Alternatively, the third definition of a “degree of correctness” suggests something other than a binary accurate or inaccurate response. Therefore to help steer our future discussions I would like everyone
to answer the following question:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Question #1<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">For purposes of our Working Group the term accuracy should be defined as:
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">[ ] true, correct and free from error; or<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">[ ] degree of correctness;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">(PICK ONE)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I think once we get clarity and/or agreement on these points, we should have a more clearly defined path forward for our post ICANN73 call.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Michael<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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