[Gnso-bylaws-dt] FINAL CALL 07 AUGUST: Final Revised Guidelines & Motion Template - Section 1.3 Approval Action Community Forum (24 July 2019)

Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
Wed Aug 7 18:47:01 UTC 2019


Thank you Julie, very helpful.

Wolf-Ulrich

Am 07.08.2019 um 20:20 schrieb Julie Hedlund:
>
> Hi Wolf-Ulrich,
>
> Thank you for your comments.  In the first, you helpfully pointed out 
> duplicate text on page 5.  We’ve resolved your comment and deleted the 
> text.
>
> Your second comment, also on page 5, suggested the need for a 
> clarification.  You note that the statement, “Within twenty-one (21) 
> days after the expiration of the Approval Action Community Forum, the 
> GNSO Council will...” is inconsistent with the 14-day deadline for a 
> Council meeting and decision in the timeline.  The reason for the 
> discrepancy is that it is expected that the Council decision would 
> take place within the 21-day period, but not later than 21 days.  In 
> order to ensure the Council’s timely decision a meeting is scheduled 
> in the timeline at the earliest possible time – at 14 days – and a 
> decision is taken accordingly.  However, it is possible that a meeting 
> and decision could occur later than 14 days, but still within the 
> 21-day period.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Julie
>
> *From: *Gnso-bylaws-dt <gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of 
> "Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>
> *Date: *Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 1:30 PM
> *To: *"gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org" <gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] FINAL CALL 07 AUGUST: Final Revised 
> Guidelines & Motion Template - Section 1.3 Approval Action Community 
> Forum (24 July 2019)
>
> Thanks Heather,
>
> daylight has also touched Europe, and so I inserted comments which I 
> think can easily be clarifed.
>
> Looking forward to meeting you later today
>
> Wolf-Ulrich
>
> Am 07.08.2019 um 07:13 schrieb Heather Forrest:
>
>     Thanks very much to Julie and Ariel for keeping us on track with
>     our deadlines for finalising our work on Section 1.3.
>
>     It looks to me (albeit I'm ahead of most of you in time zone, so I
>     appreciate that the 7th August is just beginning for some) like we
>     have no new comments or concerns raised in the Google Doc. My
>     comment in there about the timeline and whether a Council meeting
>     is called for a policy or administrative issue is the only
>     remaining comment. After discussions with staff about this, I
>     don't think it's a point that should impact our timeline here in
>     1.3, although it is going to become a live issue at some point,
>     I'm guessing, in some other, more material context. What I propose
>     that we do is to include with our package of guidelines to Council
>     when we submit it in September a covering note or additional
>     comments that flag this issue of whether a Council meeting to
>     address an EC responsibility is policy-related or administrative
>     for the purposes of the GNSO Operating Procedures rules on notice
>     of Council meetings.
>
>     Best wishes to all,
>
>     Heather
>
>     On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 11:51 PM Julie Hedlund
>     <julie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>         Dear DT members,
>
>         Per action item 2 below from the meeting on 24 July, this is a
>         FINAL CALL for comments or suggested edits on the final
>         revised version of the GUIDELINES & MOTION TEMPLATE: SECTION
>         1.3 APPROVAL ACTION COMMUNITY FORUM DRAFT (24 July 2019)
>         at:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1walBGVlK4C2eIq_Gj4DWYxkjxE_k8u718iXIySdayVQ/edit?usp=sharing
>         [docs.google.com]
>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1walBGVlK4C2eIq-5FGj4DWYxkjxE-5Fk8u718iXIySdayVQ_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMDaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=oKqeiIhNsM3aEKNgE_GIo25AexFKMJoY3x41HREMeno&s=x67lwin6xINdpL04ogjqxcFTPGkONVdqQl_ZxyanMHQ&e=>.
>         The document also is attached in Word with redlines.
>
>         *The FINAL CALL will end as of Wednesday, 07 August 2019.*
>
>         Thank you very much for your consideration.
>
>         Kind regards,
>
>         Julie & Ariel
>
>         *From: *Gnso-bylaws-dt <gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces at icann.org
>         <mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Julie
>         Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>
>         *Date: *Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 5:58 PM
>         *To: *"gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org
>         <mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org>" <gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org
>         <mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org>>
>         *Subject: *[Gnso-bylaws-dt] Actions & Notes: GNSO Drafting
>         Team Meeting 24 July 21:00 UTC
>
>         Dear all,
>
>         Please see below the action items and notes captured by staff
>         from theGNSO Drafting Team meeting held on24 July
>         2019(21:00-22:00 UTC).  Staff have posted these to the wiki
>         space. */Please note that thesearehigh-level notes and are not
>         meant as a substitute for the recording, chat room, or
>         transcript/*/./ The recording, AC chat,transcriptand
>         attendance records are posted on the wikiat:
>         https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=111387725.
>
>
>         Please note that all versions of the guidelines may be found
>         on the wiki at:
>         https://community.icann.org/display/GBIDT/Templates+and+Guidelines+Depository.
>
>
>         Best Regards,
>
>         Julie
>
>         Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
>
>         *Actions Items:*
>
>          1. *Section 18.12 Special IFRs: Guidelines for GNSO-ccNSO
>             Consultation on Initiating a Special IFR: *
>
>              1. DT members to review and provide comments on the CLEAN
>                 version of the draft document at:
>                 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OnFqzjkFTJEw0rzvaiBqAKLVnbbli-c_5t9aV2TEt10/edit?usp=sharing
>                 [docs.google.com]
>                 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1OnFqzjkFTJEw0rzvaiBqAKLVnbbli-2Dc-5F5t9aV2TEt10_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=n1pFSWYlqFjm1ID3gK7nbPFD_IxCw3g79ArhdbY267s&s=9a1yfhxGDXsBz1LN51V7B_yyrOnl6vlcTXMwnar2Vx0&e=>
>                 ASAP but not later than 16 August.
>              2. Staff and David McCauley to coordinate on sending a
>                 reminder to the DT and GRC.
>
>          2. *Section 1.3 Approval Action Community Forum: *
>
>              1. Staff to work with Heather Forrest and Steve DelBianco
>                 on revised language relating to section 1.4 of the
>                 Bylaws.
>              2. Staff to work with Heather Forrest with respect to
>                 revised language relating to the timeline.
>              3. DT members to review the final draft with the last
>                 call at the meeting on 07 August.
>
>          3. *Section 2.2 Petition Process for Specified Actions and
>             Section 2.3 Rejection Action Community: *
>
>              1. Staff should incorporate a timeline for both processes
>                 and make sure that the relevant sections of 2.3 are
>                 consistent with 1.3.
>              2. DT members should review the revised draft guidelines
>                 in preparation for the meeting on 07 August.
>
>         *Notes:*
>
>         *1. Section 18.12 Special IFRs: Guidelines for GNSO-ccNSO
>         Consultation on Initiating a Special IFR:*
>
>         -- DT and GRC had a productive meeting on Monday, 15 July to
>         discuss revisions to the guidelines addressing questions from
>         the GRC.
>
>         -- Staff worked with Heather Forrest and David McCauley to
>         revise the document and sent it to the GRC and DT on 18 July.
>
>         -- Staff will work with David McCauley on the timing of a
>         reminder to the GRC and DT to request input no later than 16
>         August.
>

>         *3. Section 1.3 Approval Action Community Forum:*
>
>         -- 4.1 Representative to the EC Administration -- that is
>         correct, the Chair may not always be in this position.  Leave
>         it as “Representative to the EC Administration” rather than
>         “Chair”.
>
>         -- 4.3.1: “In no event later than” could be said simply as
>         “within".  Although the first construction is more consistent
>         with the Bylaws. *ACTION: Heather and Steve to review.*
>
>         -- 4.3.2: Abstentions: count as abstentions in this section,
>         not as a no, with respect to the count.  The relevant section
>         of the Bylaws is excerpted, but include a note about approval
>         at the beginning of the document: “Note that per Bylaws
>         section 1.4(b)(i)-(iii) of Decision Whether to Approve an
>         Approval Action, an action is approved if it is (A) supported
>         by three or more Decisional Participants and (B) not objected
>         to by more than one Decisional Participant.” *ACTION: Staff to
>         insert text for Heather and Steve to review.*
>
>         -- On the Timeline for GNSO Council Decision, T-21 *--
>         *Schedule Special Meeting of the GNSO Council to occur within
>         14 days -- check GNSO Operating Procedures 3.3.1 Advance
>         Notice of Meetings. *ACTION: Heather to review.*
>
>         -- Final call is the next DT meeting on 07 August.
>
>         *3. Section 2.2 Petition Process for Specified Actions and
>         Section 2.3 Rejection Action Community:*
>
>         -- When we did these bylaws in 2016 we wanted to allow each
>         AC/SO decisional participant to decide it’s own procedures to
>         arrive at its decision.

>
>         -- From Heather Forrest to Everyone: (05:51 PM) 
@Steve - for
>         GNSO does that also mean decision-making within the SG/Cs?

>
>         -- Steve’s suggestion -- should be stakeholder groups OR
>         constituencies.
>
>         -- Staff should incorporate a timeline for both processes and
>         make sure that the relevant sections of 2.3 are consistent
>         with 1.3.
>
>         -- DT members should review and be prepared for a discussion
>         during the meeting on 07 August.
>
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