[GNSO-CCOICI] [Ext] RE: REMINDER: CCOICI Action item - please complete google doc with your group's position

Tue Aug 1 10:44:51 UTC 2023

Marika, I have this in my calendar as 1200 UTC, not 1400.  Please could you confirm which is correct?

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From: GNSO-CCOICI <gnso-ccoici-bounces at icann.org> On Behalf Of Marika Konings
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 11:40 AM
To: Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo at aim.be>; gnso-ccoici at icann.org
Subject: Re: [GNSO-CCOICI] [Ext] RE: REMINDER: CCOICI Action item - please complete google doc with your group's position

And for completeness, here is the proposed agenda for the meeting:

Proposed Agenda - CCOICI
Wednesday 2 August at 14.00 UTC

  1.  Welcome
  2.  Review input received on version 1 and version 2 of exemption language (see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dRxPmBjPWEoNwe-UwSeQnLi2GcXLQj4w/edit)
  3.  If no agreement is found on 2), review input received on how to proceed (see page 3 of google doc)
  4.  Confirm next steps

Best regards,

Marika

From: GNSO-CCOICI <gnso-ccoici-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org<mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>
Date: Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 12:29
To: Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo at aim.be<mailto:marie.pattullo at aim.be>>, "gnso-ccoici at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici at icann.org>" <gnso-ccoici at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [GNSO-CCOICI] [Ext] RE: REMINDER: CCOICI Action item - please complete google doc with your group's position

Also, note that there is a second question that asks about how to proceed if no agreement is found on the exemption language (page 3). Even if you do not have input from your group, it would be helpful if you have a specific suggestion so that it can be factored into the discussion, if need be.

Thanks,

Marika

From: GNSO-CCOICI <gnso-ccoici-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org<mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>
Date: Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 12:15
To: Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo at aim.be<mailto:marie.pattullo at aim.be>>, "gnso-ccoici at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici at icann.org>" <gnso-ccoici at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [GNSO-CCOICI] [Ext] RE: REMINDER: CCOICI Action item - please complete google doc with your group's position

Thanks, Marie, noted. To confirm, I think the BC indicated that it could live with both version 1 and version 2 of the exemption language, is that correct (see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dRxPmBjPWEoNwe-UwSeQnLi2GcXLQj4w/edit [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1dRxPmBjPWEoNwe-UwSeQnLi2GcXLQj4w/edit__;!!PtGJab4!5pJyz60yjztpnVSyc26zS8H51jhroh6LvnAxAwk8gr8PI39VARk9vUJ4cLy8xAAavMbFzm2M97mPKg3ig_7WuGn58g0rV4vmaJo$>)?

Best regards,

Marika

From: Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo at aim.be<mailto:marie.pattullo at aim.be>>
Date: Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 11:23
To: Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org<mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>, "gnso-ccoici at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici at icann.org>" <gnso-ccoici at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici at icann.org>>
Subject: [Ext] RE: REMINDER: CCOICI Action item - please complete google doc with your group's position

Thanks Marika.
As you know unfortunately I can't join tomorrow, but the BC's position hasn't changed since our last meeting.
Best to all
Marie

From: GNSO-CCOICI <gnso-ccoici-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici-bounces at icann.org>> On Behalf Of Marika Konings
Sent: 31 July 2023 10:01
To: gnso-ccoici at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici at icann.org>
Subject: [GNSO-CCOICI] REMINDER: CCOICI Action item - please complete google doc with your group's position

Reminder - so far, no input has been provided. Please provide your group's position in advance of Wednesday's meeting: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dRxPmBjPWEoNwe-UwSeQnLi2GcXLQj4w/edit [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1dRxPmBjPWEoNwe-UwSeQnLi2GcXLQj4w/edit__;!!PtGJab4!9C3OxvxneuZLnX6eGo07PC-vIOpum20OEqEXhFAuNdKtKJFzr7gfk-BXeEBKDIQ5WG-BM9ps1RA9_E8HDwjBOfN6S7ZFBEOglxE$>.

Best regards,

Julie & Marika

From: GNSO-CCOICI <gnso-ccoici-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org<mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>
Date: Wednesday, 19 July 2023 at 15:18
To: "gnso-ccoici at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici at icann.org>" <gnso-ccoici at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici at icann.org>>
Subject: [GNSO-CCOICI] CCOICI Action item: please complete google doc with your group's position

Dear All,

Per the action item below, please find hereby the google doc to document your group's positions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dRxPmBjPWEoNwe-UwSeQnLi2GcXLQj4w/edit [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1dRxPmBjPWEoNwe-UwSeQnLi2GcXLQj4w/edit__;!!PtGJab4!6pjepZzQJEyvsH3i37tmZacesWJ57OHtA4ERf04CUxvKtgsysCKThvPNbKILbkXKrzAF863ZrgtrU-yTBA3lZPju_XUKUC9qZHc$>.

As requested during the meeting, please complete this document as soon as you have confirmed your group's position so that others have a chance to review this in advance of the next meeting which is scheduled for Wednesday 2 August at 12.00 UTC.

Best regards,

Julie & Marika

From: GNSO-CCOICI <gnso-ccoici-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>
Date: Wednesday, 19 July 2023 at 14:43
To: "gnso-ccoici at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici at icann.org>" <gnso-ccoici at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ccoici at icann.org>>
Subject: [GNSO-CCOICI] Action Items and Notes | CCOICI Meeting | Wednesday 19 July at 1200 UTC

Dear CCOICI members,

Please find below the notes and action items from today's CCOICI meeting on Wednesday 19 July at 1200 UTC. Please see the relevant materials which can be found on the wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/DRR1Cw.

Best regards,

Julie and Marika

HOMEWORK/ACTION ITEMS:

  1.  Staff to provide a Google doc with the original exemption language and the suggested revision, along with the options for reporting to Council for CCOICI members to circulate to their groups and then to fill out with their positions.
  2.  Staff to schedule a meeting in two weeks on Wednesday, 02 August at 1200 UTC.

Notes:

1. Welcome

2. Feedback on updated language on page 8 of the recommendations report

  *   Juan Manuel, NCSG: NCSG has discussed the new language.  We are against the addition - we are okay with the original language.
  *   Marie, BC: Fine with the new language.
  *   Thomas, INSERT: Did not have a chance to socialize.
  *   Sebastien, RySG: Didn't get any major feedback so assuming they are okay with it.  Is it possible to understand the opposition to the new language from NCSG?
  *   Manju, NCSG: If you add the text you may as well not have the exemption language at all - new text renders it useless.
  *   Antonia, RrSG: Circulated and there are some debates still so no decision yet.  Could we have a few more days?
  *   Manju, NCSG: We don't have a final decision since some groups need more time.  But if we can't get consensus on this text what is the next step?  If we are not agreeing on this it seems like the whole SOI is not useful. Or we don't deliver the report?
  *   Marika, staff: Group seems to have agreement on most of what is in this report except for this section.  One challenge is that the charter doesn't specify the decision making methodology for the CCOICI. Can report positions or not deliver a report.  Or could say it has reached agreement on everything except this section, so defaults to the status quo, which wouldn't be very satisfactory.  If everyone else can live with it, would the NCSG accept it?
  *   Antonia, RrSG: We know there is an exemption in the current SOI, does that stay if we don't have a decision?
  *   Manju, NCSG: Yes the status quo would stay.  How to proceed? Maybe groups need more time?
  *   Sebastien, RySG: In the next few days hoping to come back with a point of view.
  *   Antonia, RrSG: We have a meeting on Monday.
  *   Thomas, ISPCP: Will check with my group.
  *   Marika, staff: Staff can summarize the current situation and next steps, and you can consult with your groups.
  *   Manju, NCSG: Ask if they are okay with the new language, and ask if they want to revert to existing language.
  *   Marie, BC: We are okay with the new language.  If people have a big change of view it will be helpful if they could indicate their position on email.
  *   Manju, NCSG: Good idea.
  *   Marika, staff: Circulate the new language with the old - make it clear that if they can't live with the new language then can they accept the original language.  Also provide the options for reporting to the Council.
  *   Manju, NCSG: So fill in the Google form with our positions?
  *   Marika, staff: That would be the expectation.
  *   Manju, NCSG: Also ask if we deliver the report without the revision to the exemption language, or not report.

3. Confirm next steps

  1.  Staff to provide a Google doc with the original exemption language and the suggested revision, along with the options for reporting to Council for CCOICI members to circulate to their groups and then to fill out with their positions.
  2.  Staff to schedule a meeting in two weeks on Wednesday, 02 August at 1200 UTC.

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