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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear CCOICI members,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><o:p> </o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Please find below the notes and action items from today’s CCOICI meeting on Thursday, 06 July at 1200 UTC. Please see the relevant materials which can be found on the wiki page:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/DRR1Cw">https://community.icann.org/x/DRR1Cw</a>.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Julie and Marika<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>HOMEWORK/ACTION ITEMS:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><o:p> </o:p></b></p>
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<b>Staff to update the report to 1) delete the language about not participating in consensus calls (page 6); and 2) to insert the new language about only representing yourself/employer (page 8) – DONE: See attached.<o:p></o:p></b></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo11">
<b>CCOICI members to review pages 6 and 8 of the revised report (attached) and provide feedback to the group on the list not later than the meeting on 19 July.<o:p></o:p></b></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><o:p> </o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Notes:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1. Welcome<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2. Feedback from SG/Cs on compromise proposal<b><o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><o:p> </o:p></b></p>
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Sebastien: RySG is not willing to budge. Chris Disspain’s view also was to counter the two assertions: 1) that by demanding transparency we would be limiting people from joining – we aren’t asking lawyers to disclose their clients as such, people can still
participate as themselves (in their own name); more targeting an insider who is represented by several people in the room. In the specific case of new applicants not wanting to disclose their own name, that is an edge case and we shouldn’t be building policy
on it.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Manju, NCSG/Chair: If RySG isn’t willing to budge that means going back to the status quo?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Seb, RySG: We would like that removed – so no option to say “private”.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Manju, NCSG/Chair: So they are representing themselves. Is it possible to put this into text?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Seb, RySG: Can share the spirit of our proposal in a suggested text.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Manju, NCSG/Chair: What do others think?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Marie, BC: Can’t really comment until I’ve seen it written down. The BC has tried to seek compromise. Looking at the stats the entire use of the exemption is an edge case. Confused how this would work in practice, but it seems like you wouldn’t have to disclose
your client at all.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Seb, RySG: Edge case was new applicants not disclosing. The other issue is if we ask people to speak in their own capacity then you can’t be changing positions.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Susan, IPC: Seems that this takes us back to the status quo. Don’t see how this delivers more transparency. Don’t see how this is better than the compromise.
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Marika, staff: I think in the text, it would look something like this: “If the answer is “Yes,” please provide the name of the represented individual or entity. (If professional ethical obligations prevent you from disclosing this information, you are assumed
to participate on your own behalf or on behalf of the entity you listed as your current employer).” We can incorporate the text in the report.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Manju, NCSG/Chair: We could still keep the whole request for disclosure and then add this text.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Marika, staff: You would still ask them to describe and if they don’t then they are participating on behalf of yourself and your employer.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Desiree, NomCom: How would we track if someone keeps changing his or her position?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Marie, BC: Also a bit confused as to the idea if you're there for the mythical big player you'd change your mind in every meeting - wouldn't you in fact be more likely to be solid in your line then?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Seb, RySG: Imagine a big player – if they don’t want to disclose then their position would have to be their own/employer – not whom they represent.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Manju, NCSG/Chair: We can share this text with our groups since we are missing some people today.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Marika, staff: Would we keep in the language about people not participating in consensus calls if they don’t disclose?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Seb, RySG: We wouldn’t include it – hard to say who would make that ruling and what would be the guidelines?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Manju, NCSG/Chair: Confirm that you would delete the language about not participating in consensus calls?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Seb, RySG: For the registries, yes.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
Manju: We still have to go back to our groups to consider – perhaps for two weeks. We’ll schedule on the 19<sup>th</sup> of July at the same time.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3. Next Steps<o:p></o:p></p>
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Schedule a call for Wednesday, 19 July at 1200 UTC.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo10">
After the CCOICI finishes this work since this was a pilot project the Council will ask the CCOICI how the work can be improved.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<b>Staff to update the report to 1) delete the language about not participating in consensus calls (page 6); and 2) to insert the new language about only representing yourself/employer (page 8) – DONE: See attached.<o:p></o:p></b></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo11">
<b>CCOICI members to review pages 6 and 8 of the revised report (attached) and provide feedback to the group on the list not later than the meeting on 19 July.<o:p></o:p></b></li></ol>
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