[Gnso-epdp-idn-team] order of variant activation / "primary" label

[Satish Babu]

Thanks Donna. My understanding is consistent with what you've said.

There is likely to be some reason--market-related or language-related--why
the applicant would designate a particular label as the primary/source
label, and others as variants. Once thus designated, I would consider that
the applicant would be highly likely to activate the primary label first.

With kind regards





satish



On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 10:55 AM Donna at registry.godaddy
<Donna at registry.godaddy> wrote:

> Thanks for the follow up email Michael.
>
> While I think I understand Hadia's question, I also think what she was
> suggesting is very unlikely to occur, ie that an applicant would apply for
> a primary/source label and allocatable variants and then decides to
> activate the variant label/s before the source label. My assumption has
> always been that an applicant would either activate the source/primary +
> allocatable variants at the same time or activate the source/primary label
> first followed at some later time by the allocatable variants.
>
> Interested to hear the view of others on this, but I agree with you
> Michael that we do need to make time to conclude the discussion.
>
> Donna
>
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> Dear colleagues,
>
> at the end of yesterday's call, we had a short discussion about the order
> of variant activation, which we did not have enough time to conclude. I
> would like to quickly summarise the argument, which I wanted to make. I
> think we should continue the discussion in one of the next calls, whenever
> it fits best.
>
> Due to the fact that variant dispositions are different, depending on
> which label you start with, it makes a big difference, which label you
> register first (if you don't want to register all at the same time).
>
> Take the real life example of the Turkish brand "*Yapı Kredi*". They are
> currently using the domain yapikredi.com.tr.
> Let's say, they would like to apply for their own TLD. For
> internationalisation reasons, they would like to start with ASCII version
> .yapikredi as a TLD string. Several years later, they would like to also
> register their variant TLD with the correct spelling:
> .yapıkredi. That's not possible, because it's a blocked variant.
>
> As a consequence, they will have to start with registering the TLD
> .yapıkredi, even if they do not want to use it directly, just to make sure,
> they don't lock themselves out of using it at all.
>
> The question is, how should such a use case be accommodated best? I see
> two possibilities:
> 1. Apply for both TLDs at the same time .yapıkredi and .yapikredi, but
> only activate the second one, keeping the first one inactive for years.
> 2. Apply for .yapikredi, but state in the application that the "main"
> TLD should be .yapıkredi, even though it's not applied for yet.
>
> The first approach is the simpler one, but it might incur unnecessary cost
> as the applicant is not sure, whether they ever want to activate the second
> label. The second approach would require that each application needs to
> define a "primary" or "main" or "starting" label, however we want to call
> it. I personally would support Option 2 as that would also avoid some
> potential inconsistencies, when a variant TLD gets retired.
>
> Similar examples also exist for other scripts, not just Latin.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael
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