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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks Dennis, this is helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Perhaps Edmon and Alan might be able to provide some insights into the Board discussions on 24.3 and 24.5 that will be helpful for our discussion of 3.5.4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Tan Tanaka, Dennis <dtantanaka@verisign.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 6:21 am<br>
<b>To: </b>DonnaAustin605@hotmail.com <DonnaAustin605@hotmail.com>, ariel.liang@icann.org <ariel.liang@icann.org>, gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org <gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-epdp-idn-team] Leadership Team Proposed Amendment to Rec 3.5 and IG 3.6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Donna,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Sure. Briefly, Sub Pro’s Recs 24.3 and 24.5 recommended that applicants that appear to be singular and plural of the same word not be automatically place in the same contention set so long the
applied-for labels have different intended uses. And, to hold applicants accountable by mandatory public interest commitments to use the TLD in line with the intended use presented in the application. As I read the recommendations it reminded me of question
3.5.4 (i.e., plans to mitigate user confusion).</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">The Board raises concerns about the appropriateness of such recommendations. An applicant may describe its intentions and policies as to how they plan to operate and market the TLD (and operate
it as intended), but they cannot control (and ICANN won’t police) how the registrants will use a domain name (use or not use the variants, in our case), and certainly cannot control how end-user interact and react to the content of a website.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">So, again, I question the justification for question 3.5.4…. What are we trying to solve for? Can we measure it? Can it be enforceable?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Dennis</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Donna austin <DonnaAustin605@hotmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 11:15 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka@verisign.com>, "ariel.liang@icann.org" <ariel.liang@icann.org>, "gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org" <gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-epdp-idn-team] Leadership Team Proposed Amendment to Rec 3.5 and IG 3.6</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Dennis</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Would it be possible for you to expand on how you think the ICANN Board’s response is relevant to our conversation around 3.5.4 and 3.6 please?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Donna</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Gnso-epdp-idn-team <gnso-epdp-idn-team-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Tan Tanaka, Dennis via Gnso-epdp-idn-team <gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 15 September 2023 at 5:42 am<br>
<b>To: </b>ariel.liang@icann.org <ariel.liang@icann.org>, gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org <gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-epdp-idn-team] Leadership Team Proposed Amendment to Rec 3.5 and IG 3.6</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">I found the ICANN Board’s response to SubPro’s Recommendations 24.3, 24.5 regarding singular/plural applications relevant to this conversation.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">The scorecard can be located in this link
<a href="https://secure-web.cisco.com/1cnpQ7X6KKR947RFZOnf7EKO4Hd4zfks6PgPKkvKUyLgSI7DD-V1FtmStYto_zW8NW-hYkvIba-cnMFcHGj6L3Th__L-SBtc5XxPjZWS7Tm-qeGO74U6X9UvQMW0_SvqjXGeszHW5mjA4UWP2_kfV_9F9dogVM8WWsmJLHwuY8sqyQzxmuVaqalXtY2h-GGUIcFsBNmiZrDLX_bcZHCABL4W1J5JtkCW3VUqtCmaUtBZswSTBFpEK3UoDsJG7WRtYqFCHfVtMQQ26e9ga_I5g_HHuLaw3FaU5W8DmTY5CIpTwmUjE6U-zILEpBOXddjzCkVQJP16ueo9aP4LaviNCwg/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fen%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2Ffiles%2Fscorecard-subpro-pdp-board-action-10sep23-en.pdf">
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/scorecard-subpro-pdp-board-action-10sep23-en.pdf</a></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Dennis</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka@verisign.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 10:36 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"ariel.liang@icann.org" <ariel.liang@icann.org>, "gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org" <gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] [Gnso-epdp-idn-team] Leadership Team Proposed Amendment to Rec 3.5 and IG 3.6</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Ariel,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">I appreciate the effort put into revising 3.5.4, but I find the proposed revision very similar to the original question in that it’s subject to a variety of interpretations as to the what user-confusion
might be. If there are specific scenarios that we want the applicant to address, I suggest we start there. Also important, how would an evaluator determine the score (pass or fail) of each response. Are we leaving this for implementation?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Dennis</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Gnso-epdp-idn-team <gnso-epdp-idn-team-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 9:31 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org" <gnso-epdp-idn-team@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [Gnso-epdp-idn-team] Leadership Team Proposed Amendment to Rec 3.5 and IG 3.6</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear all, </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">The leadership team has developed revised language for
<u>Final Recommendation 3.5</u> and <u>Implementation Guidance 3.6</u> for your consideration. Please share your thought on this email thread before next week’s meeting.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you!</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Ariel </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:10.0pt"><b><i><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Final Recommendation 3.5:</span></u></i></b><b><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">
</span></i></b><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">In addition to explaining the mission and purpose of its applied-for primary gTLD string, a future applicant will be required to explain why it has applied for one or more allocatable
variant label(s) of that applied-for primary gTLD string. The same requirement applies to existing registry operators who wish to apply for allocatable variant label(s) of their existing gTLDs. The explanation provided must address the following factors for
each and every applied-for variant label: </span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">3.5.1 The meaning of the applied-for variant label and how it is the same as the applied-for primary gTLD string or existing gTLD; </span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">3.5.2 The language communities who will benefit from the introduction of the applied-for variant label; </span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">3.5.3 The benefits that introducing the variant label in conjunction with the applied-for primary gTLD string or existing gTLD will provide to registrants, Internet users and the online community at-large;
and </span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">3.5.4 How the applicant intends to mitigate potential user-confusion that could be caused by not only the introduction of the applied-for gTLD variant label at the top-level but also in combination with the activation
of domain names at the second-level.</span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Implementation Guidance 3.6</span></u></i></b><b><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">:
</span></i></b><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">A panel of evaluators with relevant expertise should review the explanation submitted by an applicant for each of the applied-for variant label(s) using criteria based on a general standard
of reasonableness. In other words, the submitted responses should be reasonably legitimate and address or remedy concerns arising from the factors set out in
<u>Final Recommendation 3.5</u>. Additional criteria may be included provided any additional criteria is pre-identified during implementation. Evaluators may ask clarifying questions of the applicant on the submitted explanation, but the evaluators are not
obliged to take the clarifying information into account. </span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Consistent with Recommendation 27.2 from the SubPro PDP Final Report, each of the applied-for variant labels evaluated against the identified criteria will be scored on a pass/fail
scale (0-1 point<s>s</s> only). Applicants will be presumed to have carefully considered whether the applied-for variant labels are necessary to achieve the stated mission and purpose of the primary gTLD and as such, receiving a score of zero (0) should be
rare. However, in the event that an applied-for variant label receives a score of zero (0 point), that variant label will be ineligible to proceed further in the application process. A variant label that receives a score of 1 point can proceed to the next
stage of the application process. </span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">The same applies to existing registry operators such that only their applied-for variant labels that each receive a score of 1 point can proceed to the next stage of the application
process.</span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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