[Gnso-epdp-legal] Legal Committee Homework

Stephanie E Perrin stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca
Thu Feb 18 12:47:34 UTC 2021


My apologies for this morning, Stefan Filopovic will replace me at 
today's meeting.

Stephanie Perrin

On 2021-02-16 10:35 a.m., Becky Burr wrote:
>  thank you Hadia.  Please note that the plenary session scheduled for 
> Thursday will actually be a further Legal Team meeting.
>
> Best,
> Becky
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 10:29 AM Hadia El Miniawi via Gnso-epdp-legal 
> <gnso-epdp-legal at icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-legal at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>     Apologies all, I was not able to make it to today's call. I shall
>     listen to the recordings and provide my input over the mailing list.
>
>     Kind regards
>     Hadia
>
>     On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 04:04:06 PM GMT+2, Terri Agnew
>     <terri.agnew at icann.org <mailto:terri.agnew at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>
>     Hi Becky,
>
>     I sent invite to your email with the join information.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Terri
>
>     *From: *Gnso-epdp-legal <gnso-epdp-legal-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-epdp-legal-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Stephanie
>     E Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>     <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>
>     *Date: *Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 8:02 AM
>     *To: *"gnso-epdp-legal at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-epdp-legal at icann.org>" <gnso-epdp-legal at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-epdp-legal at icann.org>>
>     *Subject: *Re: [Gnso-epdp-legal] Legal Committee Homework
>
>     Can someone please share the link, having trouble finding the
>     instructions
>
>     Stephanie
>
>     On 2021-02-16 8:45 a.m., King, Brian via Gnso-epdp-legal wrote:
>
>         *EXTERNAL EMAIL:***
>
>         Hi all,
>
>         Unfortunately I’m unable to join today, but I did propose just
>         one clarification in the Google doc to address Volker’s
>         concern about legal entity registrants who might include
>         personal data in the RDS data.
>
>         It also seems that it might be implied in the form of the
>         question Becky re-wrote, but it would be good to ask
>         explicitly, “what is the risk?” The risk is certainly less
>         than imprisonment or even 4% global annual turnover, but what
>         exactly can Contracted Parties expect in such a scenario? It
>         seems that we’re asking CPs to take on some risk (which we
>         think will be outweighed by the benefits), so it’s only fair
>         to help them/us understand what that risk actually is. Can we
>         make this question more explicit?
>
>         *Brian J. King*​
>         /He/Him/His/
>
>         Head of Policy and Advocacy, Intellectual Property Group
>
>
>         T +1 443 761 3726​
>
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>         *From:* Jan Janssen <jjanssen at petillion.law>
>         <mailto:jjanssen at petillion.law>
>         *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:13 AM
>         *To:* Becky Burr <becky.burr at board.icann.org>
>         <mailto:becky.burr at board.icann.org>; Caitlin Tubergen
>         <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org> <mailto:caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>
>         *Cc:* King, Brian <Brian.King at markmonitor.com>
>         <mailto:Brian.King at markmonitor.com>
>         *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-epdp-legal] Legal Committee Homework
>
>         Becky, Caitlin,
>
>         Sorry for the late notice, but I will not be able to attend
>         today’s call, as I am caught up in summary proceedings.
>
>         I have asked Brian whether he could replace me. But I am not
>         sure whether he will be able to see my request before the
>         meeting as it is the middle of the night in his time zone.
>
>         Best regards,
>
>         Jan Janssen^*
>
>         jjanssen at petillion.law <mailto:jjanssen at petillion.law>
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>         +32 486 48 39 94
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>         Attorneys – Advocaten – Avocats
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>         *From: *Gnso-epdp-legal <gnso-epdp-legal-bounces at icann.org
>         <mailto:gnso-epdp-legal-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Becky
>         Burr <becky.burr at board.icann.org
>         <mailto:becky.burr at board.icann.org>>
>         *Date: *Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 00:09
>         *To: *Caitlin Tubergen <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org
>         <mailto:caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>>
>         *Cc: *"gnso-epdp-legal at icann.org
>         <mailto:gnso-epdp-legal at icann.org>" <gnso-epdp-legal at icann.org
>         <mailto:gnso-epdp-legal at icann.org>>
>         *Subject: *Re: [Gnso-epdp-legal] Legal Committee Homework
>
>         I am sending links to the current draft of the questions, with
>         legal committee notes, etc. for the two sets of questions on
>         our list (legal/natural and unique contacts).  It would be
>         really useful if folks make time to review in advance of our
>         call.
>
>         https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UCP86uPZJBA_oh_4lfa6GwisfqnXUgbi5kdq-VOQCS0/edit?ts=602ad5c5#
>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1UCP86uPZJBA-5Foh-5F4lfa6GwisfqnXUgbi5kdq-2DVOQCS0_edit-3Fts-3D602ad5c5&d=DwMGaQ&c=OGmtg_3SI10Cogwk-ShFiw&r=qQNCXqU_XE2XIdXbawYmk-YDflYH6pd8ffXlzxU37OA&m=ZYrL58Z8ENxnZ9xq3-0lZIQzUaHMvoQJ_celyxKtrOM&s=smgDQWzfYOSz6QVd46e7Dzz7SNgd0bBAQJVlBifLtVg&e=>
>
>         https://docs.google.com/document/d/156jajwvAkl1l5VsdWXpznrghkKyMUD2bhKkS20X7Xrg/edit#
>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_156jajwvAkl1l5VsdWXpznrghkKyMUD2bhKkS20X7Xrg_edit&d=DwMGaQ&c=OGmtg_3SI10Cogwk-ShFiw&r=qQNCXqU_XE2XIdXbawYmk-YDflYH6pd8ffXlzxU37OA&m=ZYrL58Z8ENxnZ9xq3-0lZIQzUaHMvoQJ_celyxKtrOM&s=87R1RXnoJQQI2PsbbAMROkl_ZRsEJvuY2HomtQvd5TU&e=>
>
>         On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:58 PM Becky Burr
>         <becky.burr at board.icann.org
>         <mailto:becky.burr at board.icann.org>> wrote:
>
>             Dear colleagues:
>
>             Please see my suggestions for the definitions.  It would
>             be great to identify any concerns in advance of our call
>             tomorrow.
>             https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vofZIqnY-xCaKMte1q_tiAwAfGwkwsu1/edit
>             <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1vofZIqnY-2DxCaKMte1q-5FtiAwAfGwkwsu1_edit&d=DwMGaQ&c=OGmtg_3SI10Cogwk-ShFiw&r=qQNCXqU_XE2XIdXbawYmk-YDflYH6pd8ffXlzxU37OA&m=ZYrL58Z8ENxnZ9xq3-0lZIQzUaHMvoQJ_celyxKtrOM&s=VfkwJFAzusWnmJyW-n73un-R4Dw3YTfa4Ub7U6BRmRc&e=>
>
>             B
>
>             On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 5:51 PM Caitlin Tubergen
>             <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org
>             <mailto:caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>                 *Sent on behalf of Becky Burr*
>
>                 Dear Legal Committee:
>
>                 In an attempt to move more quickly through the draft
>                 legal questions, I have worked with Support Staff to
>                 assign specific follow-up questions to Legal Committee
>                 members.
>
>                 Thank you to Hadia, Laureen, Margie, and Matthew for
>                 providing responses to the legal questions. The pink
>                 cells represent questions where at least one member of
>                 the Legal Committee has opposed sending the question
>                 to Bird & Bird because they believe the question to be
>                 (i) already addressed in previous legal advice; (ii) a
>                 policy question to be addressed by the plenary team;
>                 and/or (iii) unlikely to assist the EPDP Team in
>                 answering the questions assigned by the GNSO Council.
>
>                 In the rightmost columns, Support Staff and I have
>                 assigned specific follow-up questions to Legal
>                 Committee members who noted that the question(s)
>                 should be forwarded to Bird & Bird; the follow-up
>                 questions are highlighted in yellow. Other Legal
>                 Committee members are, of course, welcome to opine on
>                 the questions, but please note that if no legal
>                 committee members provide additional context to the
>                 follow-up questions re: why these questions are
>                 important to advance the Team’s work, we will no
>                 longer consider those questions.
>
>                 Feasibility:
>                 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UCP86uPZJBA_oh_4lfa6GwisfqnXUgbi5kdq-VOQCS0/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs
>                 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1UCP86uPZJBA-5Foh-5F4lfa6GwisfqnXUgbi5kdq-2DVOQCS0_edit-23heading-3Dh.gjdgxs&d=DwMGaQ&c=OGmtg_3SI10Cogwk-ShFiw&r=qQNCXqU_XE2XIdXbawYmk-YDflYH6pd8ffXlzxU37OA&m=ZYrL58Z8ENxnZ9xq3-0lZIQzUaHMvoQJ_celyxKtrOM&s=ovHeKAJMRw6f4ONocplDHJqxKt8-lfBLYFLo39VX3yw&e=>
>
>                 Legal v. Natural:
>                 https://docs.google.com/document/d/156jajwvAkl1l5VsdWXpznrghkKyMUD2bhKkS20X7Xrg/edit#
>                 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_156jajwvAkl1l5VsdWXpznrghkKyMUD2bhKkS20X7Xrg_edit&d=DwMGaQ&c=OGmtg_3SI10Cogwk-ShFiw&r=qQNCXqU_XE2XIdXbawYmk-YDflYH6pd8ffXlzxU37OA&m=ZYrL58Z8ENxnZ9xq3-0lZIQzUaHMvoQJ_celyxKtrOM&s=87R1RXnoJQQI2PsbbAMROkl_ZRsEJvuY2HomtQvd5TU&e=>
>
>                 As a reminder, broad support from the Legal Committee
>                 is required before questions get sent to external
>                 legal counsel. If it is not clear that such support is
>                 going to be obtained and the proponents have not made
>                 a convincing case about how a response will assist in
>                 answering the GNSO Council questions, it will be taken
>                 off the list. Proponents are free to reformulate the
>                 question, explaining how this question will assist in
>                 getting to a response for the GNSO Council questions.
>
>                 Please note the requested input needs to be provided
>                 before the next meeting on *Tuesday, 16 February*; it
>                 will not be further discussed if no input is provided
>                 ahead of the call.
>
>                 Best regards,
>
>                 Berry, Marika, and Caitlin
>
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