[Gnso-epdp-team] Rafik as Vice-Chair

Kavouss Arasteh kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
Sat Aug 4 16:33:22 UTC 2018

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 11:37 AM Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> I actually think we can relax about the apparent conflicts here.  Firstly,
> as has been pointed out, Rafik is running for GNSO Council, as an NCSG
> representative, but not the head of NCSG.
> Secondly, of all the people I have met at ICANN who are capable of being
> neutral (hard to find regarding WHOIS, as previously discussed on council
> with respect to the potential Chair of this EPDP), Rafik is exemplary.  He
> takes that duty very seriously.  I think you may depend on him to step
> aside if there is any conflict in the matter of the Liaison acting as
> intermediary in leadership complaints.
> Thirdly, in the matter of the overcoming conflicts or impasses within the
> work team.  Let us be frank here.  There is no one who has the experience
> in ICANN who is perfectly neutral.  A leadership position on this or any
> other GNSO PDP requires neutrality, putting on the hat of the Chair (or, in
> this case, Vice-Chair) and refraining from offering personal opinions,
> commentary on the opinions of others, or stakeholder positions.  I can
> think of some excellent examples of Chairmanship and Vice-Chairmanship
> (Steve Metalitz as Vice-Chair of the Privacy/Proxy Services Accreditation
> Issues PDP for instance, or Heather Forrest as current Chair of the GNSO).
> To suggest that members of the NCSG are not capable of setting aside our
> own goals and key positions in a similar way is inappropriate.
> Kind regards,
> Stephanie Perrin
> On 2018-08-04 05:21, Alan Greenberg wrote:
> I asked for time to consult with my colleagues and have done so.
> We have no problem with Rafik being named Vice-Chair of the EPDP based on
> the following presumptions/conditions:
> 1. There is a direct conflict with Rafik acting as the first level
> handling of a complaint about a leadership decision (a Liaison
> responsibility) and serving in that leadership. If the GNSO Chair chooses
> to act in his place in that role (any complaint that stands would go to the
> Chair next in any case), or to appoint someone else who is will be closely
> following the proceedings (and agrees not to launch a compliant!), the
> conflict goes away.
> 2. Our assumption is that the role of Vice-Chair will be purely to on
> occasion act as the Chair of a meeting when Kurt is not available, or to
> handle other administrative tasks. In this case, we see no conflict. If, on
> the other hand, he and Kurt would take on the role that other
> Chairs/Co-Chairs/Vice-Chairs teams have and strategize on to how to
> overcome conflicts or impasses within the work team, then there is a direct
> conflict as it puts one of the EPDP constituent groups in a privileged
> position. Although Rafik is not one of the formal members of the NCSG
> contingent on the EPDP, as a possible incoming NCSG Chair and a key member
> of the NCSG Policy Committee, he cannot disassociate himself completely
> from being involved.
> Alan
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