[Gnso-epdp-team] Fwd: Re: draft EDPB

Wed Dec 5 13:43:46 UTC 2018

Hi farzi,

Thank you for your reply, I certainly have no intention to expand anything. In line with the ideal community spirit we need to change the sentence maybe we could say
"ICANN is a global non-governmental non-profit organization responsible to ensure the stable and secure operation of the Internet's unique identifier systems as described in its mission"

Thanks again
Hadia

From: farzaneh badii [mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 3:06 PM
To: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi
Cc: Stephanie Perrin; gnso-epdp-team at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Fwd: Re: draft EDPB

That is just a simple paragraph about what ICANN does which is inspired by ICANN bylaws  section 1.1. The mandate of  epdp is not to expand ICANN mission either.
invoking texts and letters written by ICANN org to support an argument  is not really in line with the ideal community spirit. it's treating a non authority as the authority.

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 6:40 AM Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia at tra.gov.eg<mailto:Hadia at tra.gov.eg>> wrote:
Sorry a correction to the email that I sent in a rush below

Dear Stephanie,

Thank you and all who have contributed to the  EDPB draft letter. However I do not agree with the statement in the first paragraph that says

" ICANN is a global non-governmental non-profit organization responsible for ensuring the stable and secure operation  of the Internet's system of unique identifiers, i.e., domain names and IP addresses."

The above statement attempts to define ICANN's mission – which is indeed out of our scope -  and strongly contradicts with ICANN's note to the EDPB on May 5 2018 and contradicts with the letter sent on July 5 from EDPB to Goran Marby in which the EDPB acknowledges that ICANN's mandate goes beyond ensuring the stable and secure operation  of the Internet's system of unique identifier. To remind you the letter of July 5  from EDPB said

" in its letter of 10 may 2018, ICANN makes several references to ICANN's Bylaws to underline that ICANN's mission with respect to domain names is not limited to ensuring the stable and secure operation of the internet unique identifiers system (technical stability). The EDPB has taken note of ICANN's Bylaws, which require ICANN, in carrying out its mandate …"

I also do not agree with the statement in the draft letter that says " the ICANN Board adopted a Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data (“Temporary Specification”), which is intended to bring the domain name ecosystem into GDPR compliance"
The aforementioned intention of the temporary specification is too broad, the temporary specification is intended to ensure that the  Personal Data that is Processed by certain participants in the gTLD domain name ecosystem is in compliance with the GDPR, we are certainly not working on the whole domain name ecosystem nor is it within our mandate.

Finally I can see that the letter is mainly noting to the EDPB that the team has an initial report  that is published for public comment, and  it encourages the EDPB to provide feedback or comments in this regard. I am not sure about the outcome of such a letter, however if this is what you all  agree on I am fine with that.

Kindest Regards
Hadia

From: Gnso-epdp-team [mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 1:00 PM
To: Stephanie Perrin; gnso-epdp-team at icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Fwd: Re: draft EDPB

Dear Stephanie,

Thank you and all who have contributed to the  EDPB draft letter. However I do not agree with the statement in the first paragraph that says

" ICANN is a global non-governmental non-profit organization responsible for ensuring the stable and secure operation  of the Internet's system of unique identifiers, i.e., domain names and IP addresses."

The above statement attempts to define ICANN's mission – which is indeed out of our scope-  and strongly contradicts with what ICANN made note of in its letter of May 5 2018 to the EDPB and contradicts with the letter sent on July 5 from EDPB to Goran Marby in which the EDPB acknowledges that ICANN's mandate goes beyond ensuring the stable and secure operation  of the Internet's system of unique identifier. To remind you the letter of July 5  from EDPB said

" in its letter of 10 may 2018, ICANN makes several references to ICANN's Bylaws to underline that ICANN's mission with respect to domain names is not limited to ensuring the stable and secure operation of the internet unique identifiers system (technical stability). The EDPB has taken note of ICANN's Bylaws, which require ICANN, in carrying out its mandate …"

I also do not agree with the statement in the draft letter that says " the ICANN Board adopted a Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data (“Temporary Specification”), which is intended to bring the domain name ecosystem into GDPR compliance"
The aforementioned intention of the temporary specification is too broad, the temporary specification is intended to ensure that the  Personal Data that is Processed by certain participants in the gTLD domain name ecosystem is in compliance with the GDPR, we are certainly not working on the whole domain name ecosystem nor is it within our mandate.

Finally I can see that the letter is mainly noting to the EDPB that the team has an initial report  that is published for public comment, and  it encourages the EDPB to provide feedback or comments in this regard. I am not sure about the outcome of such a letter, however if this is what you all  agree on I am fine with that.

Kindest Regards
Hadia

From: Gnso-epdp-team [mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of Stephanie Perrin
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 4:52 PM
To: gnso-epdp-team at icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team at icann.org>
Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Fwd: Re: draft EDPB

 I am resending this letter for those who missed it, renaming as draft EDPB letter.

Stephanie

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Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Recordings, Attendance & AC chat from the GNSO Temp Spec gTLD RD EPDP Small Roles & Responsibilities team held on Thursday, 29 November 2018 at 18:00 and 21:00 UTC

Date:

Thu, 29 Nov 2018 22:45:29 -0500

From:

Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>

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gnso-epdp-team at icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team at icann.org>

And attached is the abbreviated version of the draft letter which I promised in the first meeting today.  I am very grateful to Kristina Rosette for her comments; we have it almost shrunk down to one page (if you like it, you can simply drop the font one point and we will be there :-))

Stephanie Perrin
On 2018-11-29 20:57, Terri Agnew wrote:
Dear all,

Please find the attendance and AC chat attached to this email. The MP3 and AC recording below from the two Small Teams to discuss the letter to the EDPB call held on Thursday, 29 November 2018 at 18:00 and 21:00 UTC.

These have also been posted on the agenda wiki page:  https://community.icann.org/x/bQbuBQ

First call MP3: https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-epdp-small-call-1-29nov18-en.mp3

Second call MP3: https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-epdp-small-call-2-29nov18-en.mp3

First call AC Recording:  https://participate.icann.org/p1lfb0cr39n
Second call AC Recording: https://participate.icann.org/p12zqjemvt2
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Thank you.

Kind Regards,
Terri Agnew

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