[Gnso-epdp-team] Draft Letter to EDPB

Alan Woods alan at donuts.email
Tue Nov 27 15:17:38 UTC 2018

Dear Kurt and team,

We appreciate the time and effort that has gone into the crafting of the
letter to the EDPB; however, we strongly suggest we do not engage the EDPB
at this time for the following reasons:

1) The letter essentially requests the EDPB to serve as a consultant to the
ePDP from whom we are requesting legal advice (and in some instances on
relatively straightforward interpretations of basic concepts of the law).
They are not going to resolve these issues, and may instead focus on the
fact that there remain major misunderstandings as to the law. If we require
a legal analysis of the interim report, we should engage a lawyer/law firm,
as has been repeatedly suggested.

2) The initial report does not present for review any concrete policy.
Instead it is a discordant document filled with tentative suggestions and
polarised arguments. The EDPB will not look favorably on a request to
review this collection of our divergent views on the application of the
data protection principles, which could burn much needed political capital
when the time comes to request their definitive position on our final (or
close to final) recommendations.

Ultimately, we do not disagree that EDPB engagement is critical, and indeed
the EPDP charter suggests submission at this point; however, the effort
should be coordinated in a more formal manner, and only when we have
something more cohesive and final to present (such that they are able and
willing to review and comment within the scope of their official
responsibilities and capacity). At a minimum, perhaps we should attempt to
formally follow up with the authors of previous advice to ICANN?

Kind regards,

Alan Woods
(On behalf of the CPH)

On Tue 27 Nov 2018 at 15:01, Plaut, Diane <Diane.Plaut at corsearch.com> wrote:

> Agreed Thomas, I too have read it and think it needs further work. I have
> started making suggested edits through redline and we can begin to share
> and discuss.
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> *Date: *Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 2:58 PM
> *To: *Kurt Pritz <kurt at kjpritz.com>
> *Cc: *"gnso-epdp-team at icann.org" <gnso-epdp-team at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Draft Letter to EDPB
> Hi Kurt,
> I really enjoyed the „time off“, but unfortunately it was not without
> GDPR, but GDPR for clients and not for the EPDP :-).
> Thanks for sharing the draft letter. I think it is a good starting point
> for a discussion, but I would not endorse sending it in its current form
> for two reasons:
> 1. We should discuss as a team what areas we want to get input on.
> The „legal basis for escrow“ point - to me - is not relevant enough to
> bother the EDPB with. I would rather bring purpose 2 and the question of a
> joint controller scenario to the attention of the EDPB.
> 2. We need to write more
> We need to offer more background information to the EDPB. On natural vs.
> legal or the designation of third parties, we really need to put flesh to
> the bones and describe both the operational realities as well as the legal
> implications for the different scenarios more. The EDPB needs to be fed
> with all information relevant to their decision. We cannot expect them to
> know things or do research.
> Best,
> Thomas
> > Am 26.11.2018 um 23:55 schrieb Kurt Pritz <kurt at kjpritz.com>:
> >
> > Hi Everyone:
> >
> > I hope you all had a good break from GDPR.
> >
> > Among our next steps is to send a letter to the European Data Protection
> Board with our questions. After reviewing the questions as posed in the
> Initial Report, I thought that some background, clarification and
> additional detail were required so that the EDPB is better able to
> understand our questions and is also better able to provide helpful
> responses. In collaboration with the Support team, we drafted the attached
> letter that we intend to send onto the EDPB shortly. As the EDPB meets
> monthly and their next meeting is next week, it is important that we send
> our questions as soon as possible.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for taking time to read and consider this.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> > <Letter EDPB - 26 Nov 2018(clean).docx>
> >
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