[Gnso-epdp-team] Section 4.4.8

[Amr Elsadr]

Hi Hadia and Kavouss,

The volunteer team working on 4.4.8 did so with the understanding that sections 4.4.2, 4.4.8, 4.4.9 and 4.4.10 would be moved out from under the header “Purposes for Processing gTLD Registration Data”. This was following Kurt’s email to the EPDP list on 4 September, titled “Project Plan Adjustments and Policy Organization”.

We did consider an earlier suggestion by Mark; to split the processing purposes to two lists, one to achieve the purposes of controllers and one of third-parties. However, we did not pursue this too aggressively. Speaking for myself, I agree that 4.4.8 in both its original and proposed altered forms do not describe purposes for processing (for any party).

I am not sure why a “model” would be preferable to a “framework”, so if you could elaborate on why you believe it to be more specific, I would be grateful. Within NCSG, we have considered both these terms, as well as others such as “Methodology” and “Mechanism”. We haven’t settled on any one, just yet.

As Alex suggested in his original email, this is still a tentative proposal. We like it, or at least prefer it to other alternatives previously suggested, but we’re not exactly married to it just yet. :-)

Thanks.

Amr

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dear All
> I agree almost with what Hadia said
> Kavouss
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 13 Sep 2018, at 10:45, Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia at tra.gov.eg> wrote:
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>> Hi All,
>>
>> Dear Alex and Amr,
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>> First off thank you  for your effort and time on this proposal. But are you saying that among the purposes of the processing of the data is the "  identification of third-parties with legitimate interests". This is surely not one of the purposes for the processing of the data therefore a suggest removing it.
>>
>> So my suggestion would be.
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>> 4.4.8  Supporting a Model that provides access to parties with legitimate interests grounded in legal bases to Registration Data relevant to addressing specific issues involving domain name registrations; such as issues related to consumer protection, investigation of cybercrime, DNS abuse and intellectual property protection.
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>> I put model as I think it is more specific but I am fine with using the term framework if you see it more appropriate. I also suggest adding  "such as issues related to"  which would serve to provide examples of third parties with legitimate interest.
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>> Kind Regards
>>
>> Hadia
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>> From: Gnso-epdp-team [mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Alex Deacon
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:34 PM
>> To: gnso-epdp-team at icann.org
>> Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Section 4.4.8
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> As you know a group of us has been working to recommend an update to Section 4.4.8 of the temp spec.
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>> While we haven't come to full agreement on the update, we are pretty close and wanted to share the current/tentative output of the volunteer team with the broader team.
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>>>
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>>> 4.4.8  Supporting a framework that enables identification of third-parties with legitimate interests grounded in legal bases, and providing these third-parties with access to Registration Data relevant to addressing specific issues involving domain name registrations related to consumer protection, investigation of cybercrime, DNS abuse and intellectual property protection.
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>> The non-bold text was suggested by Amr/NCSG and the added bold text was an updated suggested by me/IPC and supported by the BC.
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>> Giving it a re-read again today I think additional word-smithing could be warranted, but for now I will resist and step away and let others share their thoughts.
>>
>> Alex
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