[Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting

Thu Aug 29 13:46:07 UTC 2019

Dear Janis:

I guess it depends on whether Goran and the Strawberry Team have any information for us that may inform the week’s discussions.  If they have some useful news or insights for us, then that information would be good to receive earlier, so the team can take it into consideration during the week’s work.  If they just have updates that will not inform the week’s work, then later in the F2F.  Either way, the presentation should be economical and to the point; ePDP leadership can to talk with Strawberry and figure out relevance and confirm goals.

All best,

--Greg

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Dear Janis, 

The CPH has been pondering the best possible time for the Strawberry Team and Goran to meet with the team, and we, of course, welcome the opportunity to have a discussion with them at the F2F. 

With that in mind, we would like to suggest that the timing of this is probably key. Realistically speaking, we do believe that perhaps the most prudent slot on the agenda would be the end of the final day. This will allow us to draw a line under our main deliberations, and then focus on our discussion with the Strawberry Team. Following that, it seems fitting to end the meeting at ICANN HQ with Goran; seems to be a very natural scheduling choice. 

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On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:52 PM Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu <mailto:milton at gatech.edu> > wrote:

I am ok with some people having a list of questions and comparing notes about them, but I want a free-flowing discussion with Goran and the strawberries (I wince every time I use this fruity term btw) 

I don't want to get into political negotiations about what question I can ask and I don't want strategic bargaining over the list. 

--MM

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Subject: RE: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting

IPC supports meeting with Goran and Strawberry Squad as suggested. We would be fine to do this over lunch if necessary. This is an important influencing factor for our work, so if a non-lunch session would be more productive, that would be our preference. 

We agree to Janis' suggestion that we prepare a list of questions ahead of time, and would request a full report not necessarily limited to our proactive questions. 

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Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting

Dear Janis and all,

I think meeting with the Strawberry team is important to the work of the legal team, where we would be able to know if they reached legal conclusions in relation to some of the components of the UAM. In addition, it would certainly be useful to the work of the entire team as we could base our work on realistic assumptions. Discussing with ICANN's CEO different stakeholders' liabilities is also important to the group's work. To conclude I do agree to meeting with both provided of course we have the time for this.

Kindest regards
Hadia

Hadia Elminiawi
Director, DNS Entrepreneurship Center
National Telecom Regulatory Authority of Egypt

On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:00 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu <mailto:milton at gatech.edu> <mailto:milton at gatech.edu <mailto:milton at gatech.edu> >> wrote:

Sounds like a good idea to me. An hour or so devoted to soliciting answers to questions about ICANN’s status as a data controller would be very important contributor to our work, in my opinion.
Others?

--MM

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Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting

Dear EPDP Team,

In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model.
As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM.
If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome.

I look forward to receiving your feedback.

JK
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