[Gnso-epdp-team] Draft Initial Report

Mueller, Milton L milton at gatech.edu
Tue Dec 3 15:22:32 UTC 2019


Indeed, makes a lot more sense. “Status quo improved” via standardization would be a better description.

From: Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net>
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Draft Initial Report


Hi Janis,

when explained like that, it actually makes sense. As far as a fallback position goes, it is not something I would rule out.

Best,

Volker
Am 03.12.2019 um 15:09 schrieb Janis Karklins:
Dear All,

Let me explain thinking behind the "Decentralized" model.
It has been mentioned during the Team conversation that "status quo improved" can not be ruled out. Today there isn't system but decentralized mechanism of sending request for private registration information disclosure. Sometimes these requests are answered, sometimes remain without reply.
Improvements in the current mechanism could be done through standardization of procedures that would be applied by both - requesting entities and responding entities without changing the decentralized nature of mechanism.
If processes that would be applied in "Status Quo improved" will be standardized, then this mechanism could be qualified as "Standardized System of Access/Disclosure (SSAD)".
I acknowledge that the Team has agreed on "centralized gateway approach" and works on this assumption. But as a theoretical model "decentralized - status Quo improved" has a justification to exist within defined parameters of our task.

I do not insist on retaining of this option in the initial report, but just wanted to explain the reason behind putting the option in the draft.

JK

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:46 PM Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu<mailto:milton at gatech.edu>> wrote:
That’s the correct way to put it, Volker. No consensus, no SSAD. Perhaps the draft report can be modified to indicate that.

--MM

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Ultimately, the "no-SSAD" "option" describes the status quo. In other words, if we as a group fail to reach consensus this is what we'll have, regardless of what we want. Maybe this can serve as encouragement to move away from extreme positions that have a rabbits chance in a snake pit to survive a consensus call...

Volker
Am 03.12.2019 um 13:26 schrieb Mueller, Milton L:
Ha, you spoiled the agreement, Brian. ;-)

>If I can go so far, I suggest that the initial report indicate that we are
> working primarily toward the “centralized” model pending crucial input from the DPB.

This is not our understanding at all. One reason I want to eliminate the “no SSAD” option is that I think it confuses the issue of centralizing requests, which can be done and can gain consensus, versus centralizing the decision maker, which I think is deeply problematic and will never gain consensus.



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