[Gnso-epdp-team] FW: Small Team - Data Elements Workbooks

Alan Woods alan at donuts.email
Tue Jan 22 17:20:37 UTC 2019


Hi guys,

As noted in the Doodle poll response I was tentative for this time slot,
and that tentative has turned to a likely not. Luckily Marc is also on the
team, and I will still be happy to do the work, but this evening is far
from ideal for me. I can pop in for the start of the meeting, but I shall
have to leave relatively soon.

Apologies all,

Alan


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On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 12:07 AM <mail at berrycobb.com> wrote:

> Hi Plenary EPDP Team,
>
>
>
> As you will recall from the end of our day 3 session in Toronto,
> interested persons volunteered to work on the small team to test the logic
> of the processing activities and data elements across the seven workbooks.
> Their first meeting is 22 Jan 2019 at 17:30 UTC.  The following have
> volunteered thus far:
>
>    - Alex Deacon
>    - Sarah Wyld
>    - Alan Woods
>    - Marc Anderson
>    - Stephanie Perrin
>
>
>
> Below you will find an introductory email of the small team’s scope and
> primary activities.  As this was formed on the fly, not all were present to
> volunteer or they were not interested in the level of detail this group
> will get into.  Thus, the small team will welcome one or two more,
> especially from groups not yet represented.  Given the urgency, alternates
> are welcome if the primary is unable to participate or interest in this
> topic resides elsewhere among your representatives.  Please let me know if
> someone from your group is interested to join and we will add you/them to
> the small team.  The 22 Jan session is not planned to be its only scheduled
> meeting.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> B
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> GNSO Policy Consultant
>
> @berrycobbb
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>
> *From:* mail at berrycobb.com <mail at berrycobb.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2019 16:13
> *To:* *Cc:*
> *Subject:* Small Team - Data Elements Workbooks
> *Importance:* High
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> By now, you should have received a Small Team – Data Elements Workbooks
> calendar invite for tomorrow, *22 Jan 2019 at 17:30 UTC for 2 hours*.
> Upon your review of the workbooks (attached), you’ll likely see that we’ll
> probably need at least two more meetings to work these into final shape for
> the Final Report.  Please consider some possible times you may be available
> this week and next.  Apologies for the length of this email.
>
>
>
> Attached is Annex D of the draft Final Report that contains the following
> high-level changes in redline from the Initial Report:
>
>    - Converted Purpose lettering to Purpose numbering (A to 1), including
>    Processing Activity codes and the data flow map(s)
>    - The addition of sidebar comments of areas that should be considered
>    as each of the workbooks is reviewed, sourced from:
>       - Items remaining not yet considered at publication of initial
>       report
>       - Latest agreed to purpose statements from Toronto
>       - Input from ICANN Org (see below)
>       - Other global changes identified across all Purpose workbooks,
>       pending dependencies from plenary or the legal committee
>
>
>
> What are the key activities this small-team should accomplish?
>
>    - confirm the logic of processing activities across collection,
>    transfer, disclosure and retention
>    - confirm data flow maps
>    - confirm data elements for each processing activity
>    - reconcile most recent recommendation text for Rec #s 4, 5, 6 and 8
>    to the processing activities and data elements
>    - confirm and make consistent purpose rationale statements
>    - others to be discussed
>
>
>
> What is out-of-scope for the small-team?
>
>    - Purpose Statements from Toronto; the latest language will only be
>    referenced in confirming the logic of the processing activities and data
>    elements
>    - The deliberation on the lawful basis until input has been received
>    from the Legal Committee
>
>
>
> Other key tasks:
>
>    - Await Purpose 1 proposal from RySG to split into Purpose 1A & 1B
>    - Final conclusions on the Thick Whois Policy deliberations at the
>    plenary, as it should be properly represented in the workbooks
>    - Rows 72-82 of Registration Data Fields Comparison (not discussed for
>    this meeting, but is additional input from ICANN Org on certain provisions
>    in current RyAs)
>
>
>
> For the first meeting:
>
>    - A quick review of changes to Annex D made from the Initial Report
>    - A discussion of the small team’s approach and other
>    ideas/requirements based from the public comment(s) that suggest this review
>    - A review of input received from Francisco based on a technical
>    perspective (may align to some of the logic concerns from RySG)
>    - Mostly circle the logic discussions around Purpose 1 and 2
>    - Quick review of consolidated data elements by processing activity
>    charts (updates started, but depends on updates to workbooks)
>
>
>
> ***Below you will see in *RED* actions/response to Francisco’s input to
> the data elements.  Virtually all of these have been imported into the
> attached Annex D either via redline suggested change or a comment or both
> for the team to consider.
>
>
>
> Lastly, I will be forward this email to the main list to announce the
> scheduling of this call and allow for others interested to join, given that
> not all were present in Toronto.
>
>
>
> See you tomorrow.
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> B
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>
>
> Berry Cobb
>
> GNSO Policy Consultant
>
> @berrycobb
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>
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>
>
> Please see below additional input:
>
>
>
>    1. In recommendations 4 and 5: “Domain Name” is not a field generated
>    by the registry/registrar, but provided by the registrant.
>
> *BAC: Updated in workbooks, will be updated in Final Report*
>
>    1. In recommendation 4 and 5: “Registrar Registration Expiration Date”
>    is an optional field, i.e., not all the registrars add their own expiration
>    date. However, if a registrar sets this field, they must transmit it to the
>    registry.
>
> *BAC: Updated in workbooks, will be updated in Final Report; comment made
> in Purpose 1 workbook to be reviewed by small team as this was formerly
> marked as Required.*
>
>    1. In recommendation 4: “Reseller” is optional. However, if a
>    registrar sets this field, they must transmit it to the registry.
>
> *BAC: Updated in workbooks, will be updated in Final Report; ; comment
> made in Purpose 1 workbook to be reviewed by small team as this was
> formerly marked as Required.*
>
>    1. In recommendation 4: They may want to signal that “Domain Status”
>    can appear more than once.
>
> *BAC: Updated in workbooks as footnote, will be updated in Final Report:
> The field will now be listed as “Domain Status(es)”*
>
>    1. In recommendation 4: “Tech ID” is not optional by itself; I think
>    what they meant is to say that providing a technical contact is optional,
>    however, if one is provide there will be a “Tech ID” field; that is also
>    probably the intend for the other technical contact fields.
>
> *BAC: Yes, that is the intent.*
>
>    1. In recommendation 4: “Name Server IP Address” can appear more than
>    once and it is not generated by the registry/registrar, but provided by the
>    registrant (in the general case, it just so happens that some registrants
>    provide the DNS hosting service and so they provide these in such cases on
>    behalf of the registrant).
>
> *BAC: Updated in workbooks, will be updated in Final Report:  The field
> will now be listed as “NameServer(s)”*
>
>    1. In recommendation 5: “Registry Domain ID”, “Registry Registrant
>    ID”, and “Tech ID” are not transferred from registrar to registry. The
>    registry creates these.
>
> *BAC: Updated in workbooks, will be updated in Final Report:  *Question:
> Just to confirm, if I were perform a RDDS query at the Registrar, these
> three fields will not be displayed?
>
>    1. In recommendation 5: “Registrar Whois Server”, “Registrar URL”,
>    “Registrar Abuse Contact Email” and “Registrar Abuse Contact Phone” are not
>    transmitted to the registry with each registration in EPP; they are
>    provided to the registry once by each registrar and used for each
>    registration a registrar has. I’m not sure if you want to flag this or not.
>
> *BAC: Added as footnote on Purpose 1 table*
>
>    1. In recommendation 5: “Updated Date” is not transmitted by the
>    registrar to the registry. The registry sets this in its database when the
>    registrar makes any update to the domain name (e.g., change DNS servers).
>
> *BAC: Updated in workbooks, will be updated in Final Report:*
>
>    1. In recommendation 5: “Creation Date” is not transmitted by the
>    registrar to the registry. The registry sets this in its database when the
>    name is created.
>
> *BAC: Updated in workbooks, will be updated in Final Report:*
>
>    1. In recommendation 5: “Registry Expiry Date” is not transmitted by
>    the registrar to the registry. The registry sets/updates this in its
>    database when the name is created, renewed, and possible as a result of
>    other operations.
>
> *BAC: Updated in workbooks, will be updated in Final Report:*
>
>    1. In recommendation 5: “Registrar” and “Registrar IANA ID” are not
>    transmitted by the registrar to the registry. The registry knows this when
>    onboarding the registrar independent of any given registration.
>
> *BAC: Updated in workbooks, will be updated in Final Report:*
>
>    1. In recommendation 5: “Domain Status” (which is a field that can
>    appear multiple times) may or may not be set by the registrar; some status
>    are set by the registrar, some are set by the registry.
>
> *BAC: Added as footnote on Purpose 1 table*
>
>    1. In recommendation 5: “DNSSEC” is not transmitted by the registrar
>    to the registry. The registry derives this from other information provided
>    by the registrar, i.e., DNSKEY or DS records.
>
> *BAC: Updated in workbooks, will be updated in Final Report:*
>
>    1. In recommendation 5: “Last Update of Whois Database” is not
>    transmitted by the registrar to the registry. The registry knows when this
>    happened, i.e., when the registry updated the database that contains the
>    record being asked for.
>
> *BAC: Updated in workbooks, will be updated in Final Report:*
>
>    1. In recommendation 6, numeral 6: the text should be updated to
>    something like “… the EPDP Team recommends be transferred by Registries
>    and/or Registrars (as the case may be) to data escrow providers …” Some of
>    the fields are only available to the registry and it only makes sense for
>    the registry to escrow those; adding something to the effect of the above
>    language would allow later in the process to define explicitly which fields
>    are escrowed by registry and which by registrars. Alternatively and
>    preferably, the EPDP may want to separate the recommendation in two, one
>    for registries, another for registrars.
>
> *BAC: Agreed on the preference, and that is why Purpose 4 is split into
> two workbooks 4A-Registrar, 4B Registry.  I think for the purpose of the
> Final report, we should remove the brown consolidated table, and create a
> distinct table for the Rr and Ry, representing the specific data fields
> transferred to the Escrow Provider.  This will be flagged for the small
> team review.*
>
>    1. In recommendation 6: it should be clarified that “optional” fields
>    must be escrowed if data exists.
>
> *BAC: Added footnote to Purpose 4B workbook, we’ll add to Final Report’s
> recommendations section upon executing #16 above.*
>
>    1. In recommendation 6: “DNSSEC” should not be escrowed. Instead the
>    related DNSKEY or DS records from which this field is derived must be
>    escrowed.
>
> *BAC: Added comment to Purpose 4B workbook to address with small team.*
>
>    1. In recommendation 6: “Last Update of Whois Database” should not be
>    escrowed. As explained above, this field indicates when the registry
>    updated the database that contains the record being asked for. It only
>    makes sense in the context of a response to a given query.
>
> *BAC: This will be addressed in #16 above; confirmed that Purpose 4B
> workbook properly transfers this field, while the 4A workbook does not.*
>
>    1. In recommendation 6, question 3: perhaps the EPDP should consider
>    language similar to what the 2017 base registry agreement has in
>    specification 2 regarding what should be escrowed: “*the universe of
>    Registry objects to be considered for data escrow are those objects
>    necessary in order to offer all of the approved Registry Services*”.
>
> *BAC: This can be addressed in #16 above?*
>
>    1. In recommendation 8: the table is missing to list the Registrant ID
>    and Tech ID to indicate whether they should be redacted or not.
>
> *BAC: Confirmed.  This table should be updated.  I flagged in the Purpose
> 2 workbook for the small team to confirm these two fields. “Registry
> Registrant ID” shows disclosed and redacted.  However, “Tech ID” is not
> designated as being disclosed.  The consolidated data elements table also
> has this flagged to be addressed.*
>
>    1. Recommendation 9 does not appear clear enough.
>
> *BAC: Being considered by EPDP Plenary, substantial changes deliberated in
> Toronto that will changes the recommendation language from the Initial
> Report.*
>
>    1. Recommendation 11 seems to be missing the list of data elements to
>    be retained.
>
> *BAC: Retention is still an active issue under deliberation by the EPDP.
> The small team will also examine the logic of retention across each of the
> 7 purposes, by role.  Purpose 1 workbook contains the Processing Activity
> and data elements that will be retained, but it is implied that it is both
> for Registrars and Registries.  Should two Processing Activities in the
> workbook be created to distinguish and Rr and Ry retention tag?
> Recommendation 11 only mentions Registrars, should it also include
> Registries (or via a distinct recommendation?)*
>
>    1. Recommendation 12 includes a few elements to be developed during
>    the implementation of the policy (e.g., timeliness of responses, format,
>    logging) that are probably too big topics to be left for implementation. It
>    would be better if the policy dealt with them.
>
> *BAC: Retention is still an active issue under deliberation by the EPDP.  *
>
>    1. Annex D: various data element matrices use as key { “1” = Required
>    “(1)” = Optional “-“ = Not Required or Optional}. The last two elements
>    could benefit from clarification as to: 1) what it means to be optional as
>    described above; and 2) whether “-“ is not required or optional; I don’t
>    think it is helpful to have these in one element.
>
> *BAC: Added as issue to address in small team review of workbooks.*
>
>
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