[Gnso-epdp-team] About the "Issues sheet"

Tue Feb 4 09:30:43 UTC 2020

I disagree. For the sake of consensus, let us agree to put in the 
generally agreed case for automation and refer to the others as "there 
may be others down the road". Anything beyond that will just create 
false expectations.

Best,

Volker

Am 03.02.2020 um 23:13 schrieb King, Brian via Gnso-epdp-team:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I think I agree with Milton’s second point. If we’re finalizing the 
> Initial Report on Thursday (hooray!), we shouldn’t get bogged down 
> with a substantive discussion on the various automatable use cases. It 
> seems that conversation won’t yet lead to harmonious consensus.
>
> As a procedural matter, we should include in the Initial Report the 
> various use cases we are considering automating, and to be fair “or 
> not automating.” I believe Mark Sv is sending an updated version of 
> this around shortly. I’m not the expert on GNSO procedures that some 
> of our colleagues are, but I think it may be required to list these in 
> the Initial Report and seek public comment even if we end up rejecting 
> them. We could not, on the other hand, NOT list them and then publish 
> a final report that includes them without first publishing an initial 
> report that includes them. Right?
>
> Thanks!
>
> *Brian J. King *
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> *From:*Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces at icann.org> *On Behalf Of 
> *Mueller, Milton L
> *Sent:* Monday, February 3, 2020 4:31 PM
> *To:* Janis Karklins <karklinsj at gmail.com>; Caitlin Tubergen 
> <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>
> *Cc:* gnso-epdp-team at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] About the "Issues sheet"
>
> Two responses:
>
>  1. There are many things that you may think were “agreements in LA”
>     that were not agreements but agreements to disagree
>  2. If we are merely finalizing the initial report then the current
>     debate about which uses cases can be automated is out of bounds
>     Thursday.
>
> MM
>
> *From:*Janis Karklins <karklinsj at gmail.com <mailto:karklinsj at gmail.com>>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 3, 2020 3:42 PM
> *To:* Caitlin Tubergen <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org 
> <mailto:caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>>
> *Cc:* Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu 
> <mailto:milton at gatech.edu>>; gnso-epdp-team at icann.org 
> <mailto:gnso-epdp-team at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] About the "Issues sheet"
>
> Dear Team members,
>
> Pls approach this exercise as a proof reading of the Initial Report 
> rather than attempt to re-open agreements of LA. In remaining few 
> hours we will not be able to re-negotiate sometimes delicate 
> compromises that we coined during hours and hours of collective and 
> small groups conversations.
>
> Another thing is to engage in discussions of real cases for possible 
> automated disclosure that we didn't have a chance to discuss in 
> details in LA. Hope that current debate is contributing to a solution 
> that we can endorse on Thursday.
>
> Thank you for understanding
>
> JK
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 9:12 PM Caitlin Tubergen 
> <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org <mailto:caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>     Milton and Team:
>
>     The agenda message had three attachments:
>
>     1. an issues list, where groups may populate items within the
>     report that they cannot live with,
>
>     2. a red-lined word doc that does not contain line numbers, but
>     shows the updates made as a result of agreements reached during
>     the F2F, and
>
>     3. a clean PDF with line numbers.
>
>     You may view the line numbers via the PDF.
>
>     Thank you.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Marika, Berry, and Caitlin
>
>     *From: *Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of "Mueller,
>     Milton L" <milton at gatech.edu <mailto:milton at gatech.edu>>
>     *Date: *Monday, February 3, 2020 at 11:49 AM
>     *To: *"gnso-epdp-team at icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team at icann.org>"
>     <gnso-epdp-team at icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team at icann.org>>
>     *Subject: *[Gnso-epdp-team] About the "Issues sheet"
>
>     Caitlin,
>
>     The issues sheet asks for “line numbers” to help specify where the
>     text we are concerned about is. However, in the Word document with
>     the draft report, I do not see any line numbers.
>
>     Am I looking at the wrong thing? Should I see them on the draft,
>     or should I use other indicators, such as section X.Y, bullet
>     point 3, line 2, for example?
>
>     Dr. Milton L Mueller
>
>     School of Public Policy
>
>     Georgia Institute of Technology
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