[Gnso-epdp-team] IPC/BC/RySG and others: requesting an extension on can't live with items

Fri Jul 10 16:29:05 UTC 2020

We have heard before that there is no more time for the delivery of the
final report, so any time we extend the deliberation will have to be taken
from deliberations.
This indicates to me that the more can't live withs we get, the less chance
there is to actually discuss them. And even though some suggested changes
are minor edits, these are also important to improve the quality of the
report and need to be discussed.

By adding time here, we are setting sail for fail!

Suggestion: Everyone posts their can't live with items on the list so we
can discuss them on the list.
No need to listen to ourselves talk and hear our own voices. Let's get this
done.

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On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 5:45 PM Kapin, Laureen via Gnso-epdp-team <
gnso-epdp-team at icann.org> wrote:

> Dear Rafik,
>
>
>
>   Just for clarity, our action items included more than “minor edits.”  We
> were also asked to identify “can’t live with” and other important issues.
> I’m assuming that any extensions applies to the full range of our tasks.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Laureen Kapin
>
> Counsel for International Consumer Protection
>
> Federal Trade Commission
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> (202) 326-3237
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>
>
> *From:* Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces at icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Rafik
> Dammak
> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 10:50 AM
> *To:* gnso-epdp-team at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] IPC/BC/RySG and others: requesting an
> extension on can't live with items
>
>
>
> Dear EPDP members,
>
> Honestly, I’m quite disappointed by this last minute request for an
> extension. All proposed recommendations have been extensively deliberated
> and this is not the time for substantial changes. That said, I will honor
> an extension by one week. Here is the updated timeline confirmed with staff:
>
> • 6 - 17 July: silent week(s) – opportunity for EPDP Team to review draft
> Final Report and flag any minor edits (no reopening of previously discussed
> & addressed issues).
> • 21 July: several hours EPDP Team meeting(s) to address any issues that
> may require EPDP Team input / guidance.
> • 23 July: distribution of Final Report and consensus designations. As a
> reminder, the Chair will make an evaluation of the support achieved for the
> recommendations and publish its designation for the group to review.
> • 23 - 27 July: opportunity for EPDP Team to respond to consensus
> designations, review by Chair of input received, if any, confirmation by
> Chair of designation.
> • 27 July: deadline for minority statements.
> • 31 July: No later than date for submission of Final Report to the GNSO
> Council
>
> With this schedule change, there is no more slack and regardless of
> outcomes, I will send the report at its latest state with or without
> support of the EPDP. We MUST deliver the report by 31 July as there is no
> chance of support for an additional extension as indicated by the council
> at its last meeting.
>
> I urge the groups to work together in the background to seek agreement on
> the critical recommendations that constitute this SSAD solution.
>
> The time is now!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Rafik.
>
>
>
> Le ven. 10 juil. 2020 à 22:06, King, Brian via Gnso-epdp-team <
> gnso-epdp-team at icann.org> a écrit :
>
> Hello EPDP Staff and Leadership,
>
>
>
> On behalf of the IPC/BC/RySG and other groups who I know feel similarly
> but with whom we have not yet been able to caucus officially:
>
>
>
> We have been diligently working through the report during this silent
> week, and many of us have found it quite challenging to provide thoughtful
> and constructive comments on each recommendation in this short a timeframe.
> While we work recommendation-by-recommendation, many of us are also
> grappling with the report as a whole, and we need time to confer within our
> constituencies to understand which are our most pressing “can’t live with”
> items, and to come up with creative solutions if needed to come to
> consensus.
>
>
>
> We note that many of our most challenging and contentious issues were the
> ones discussed most recently. Taking just five or so days to review new
> language on our most important issues with our constituencies has proven to
> be quite challenging, if not impossible. Frankly, it would not do justice
> to all the hard work we have put in to get this far if we rush through the
> most important parts, particularly if consensus will depend on more
> thoughtful review and constructive conversation.
>
>
>
> In light of the difficulty to accomplish substantive review and discussion
> in the requested timeframe, and with the goal of achieving consensus in
> Phase 2, we would like to request an additional two weeks to work through
> our “can’t live with” items. If granted, we can commit to providing
> thoughtful, constructive suggestions on any remaining items by COB on
> Friday, July 24.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your consideration.
>
>
>
> *Brian J. King*
> Director of Internet Policy and Industry Affairs, IP Group
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