<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Laureen,</div><div><br></div><div>yes, we did discuss it and always returned to the point that it was out of scope for our group. While I understand the desire to have something on webforms included, discussion was rather one-sided due to the scope. I understand from other registrars that there are many issues with input fields as part of the webforms and they have chosen the format of their forms for a reason. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span lang="EN-US">-- <br>Volker A. Greimann<br>General Counsel and Policy Manager<br><b>KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH</b><br><br>T: +49 6894 9396901<br>M: +49 6894 9396851<br>F: +49 6894 9396851<br>W: </span><a href="http://www.key-systems.net/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">www.key-systems.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><br><br>Key-Systems GmbH is a company registered at the local court of Saarbruecken, Germany with the registration no. HR B 18835<br>CEO: Oliver Fries and Robert Birkner<br><br>Part of the CentralNic Group PLC (LON: CNIC) a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358.<br><br></span><span style="font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(248,249,250)">This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended only for the person(s) directly addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, transmission, distribution, or other forms of dissemination is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete this email with any files that may be attached.</span></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">To be fair, this issue has been discussed many times during our meetings. This recommendation merely captures what has already been proposed by certain SGs. Hence
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Gnso-epdp-team <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Volker Greimann via Gnso-epdp-team<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 25, 2021 11:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> EPDP <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Recommendation on Web Forms<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think it is not appropriate to introduce a new recommendation at the last minute that has not been deliberated and seems to me to be out of scope of this WG. While I have no objection to the content of this recommendation, and KS has
already implemented its webforms in a similar manner, I think the process concern must prevail here.
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T: +49 6894 9396901<br>
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F: +49 6894 9396851<br>
W: <a href="http://www.key-systems.net/" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">www.key-systems.net</span></a><br>
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Key-Systems GmbH is a company registered at the local court of Saarbruecken, Germany with the registration no. HR B 18835<br>
CEO: Oliver Fries and Robert Birkner<br>
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Part of the CentralNic Group PLC (LON: CNIC) a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately, Mark and I did not get this in prior to the Friday deadline, but we still believe that it is crucial to include in the Initial Report.<br>
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Although some form of email address is a far preferable solution for many on this EPDP, it appears that this will not be a recommendation.<br>
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As it stands, the EPDP Recommendation #13 which is supposed to facilitate communications with the registrant does not achieve its goal. Many registrars are using web forms, and in many cases, they are effectively useless. As an example, one common example is
a form that simply lets the requestor select one of three messages (Domain name or content is being used in malware, or for spam or abuse; Domain name or content is infringing on a trademark or violating local laws or regulations; or Research or other purpose).<br>
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It has been suggested that this matter be referred to the Phase 1 IRT, but without a recommendation saying that the policy may set web form content, there is no way for the IRT to establish such enforceable rules.<br>
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<b><span style="color:blue">Recommendation<br>
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The Phase 1 Recommendation 13 should be amended to include: Should a Registrar choose to use a web form, that form must allow at the requester to specify the Subject of the email to be send (up to 64 characters) and a free-form text message of up to 512 characters
to be included in the communication to the registrant.<br>
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</span></b>Alan & Mark<u></u><u></u></p>
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