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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dear EPDP Team,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Please find below the notes and action items from today’s meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The next EPDP Phase 2A meeting will be Tuesday, 10 August at 14:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br>
Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br>
Marika, Berry, and Caitlin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Apple Color Emoji";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Apple Color Emoji";color:black">🚨</span><span style="color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Apple Color Emoji";color:black">📣</span><span style="color:black"> <b><u><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17qLMYb3HC7qGYPQveXbUq5ZSzvedrQ3t8AdVdrRIdrw/edit#gid=0"><span style="color:#0563C1">Action<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Items</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></u></b> </span><span style="font-family:"Apple Color Emoji";color:black">📣</span><span style="color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Apple Color Emoji";color:black">🚨</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="color:black"> </span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">Please find a link to outstanding<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>action<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>items:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17qLMYb3HC7qGYPQveXbUq5ZSzvedrQ3t8AdVdrRIdrw/edit#gid=0"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17qLMYb3HC7qGYPQveXbUq5ZSzvedrQ3t8AdVdrRIdrw/edit#gid=0</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">EPDP Phase 2A - Meeting #33</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Proposed Agenda</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thursday 5 August 2021 at 14.00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">1. Roll Call & SOI Updates (5 minutes)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">2. Welcome & Chair updates (Chair) (15 minutes)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">a. Status of continuation of mediated conversations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· Share proposed action items coming out of mediated conversations to date<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If we have a path to consensus and need more time to finalize, that would be sufficient justification for submitting a project change request. Otherwise, a project change request is unlikely to help.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:70.9pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The Team will need a rationale by tomorrow if we need extra time.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:70.9pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Update from Melissa Allgood – <o:p>
</o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:70.9pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There is one more session today regarding dealing with uncertainty. Following the last call, leadership will propose a plan for how to handle the mediated discussions.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:70.9pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Leadership would like to expand the conversation regarding the data element. There was a lack of understanding regarding the benefits of a standardized data element and the operational challenges of having a standardized
data element. Support Staff has created a document where benefits and burdens can be placed – the deadline to contribute to the document is Tuesday, 10 August.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:70.9pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hearing that Team members have to go on the record again with the operational burdens is frustrating – how many times do we have to repeat the same things? Still believe there is a fundamental scope issue that
has not been addressed with respect to the additional data element. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:70.9pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This is the last time groups will need to do this. If the issues have been stated before, it should not be a large lift to copy and paste again.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:70.9pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It is the chair’s view that the issues the Team is tackling are in scope. If the GNSO Council feels that the questions are out of scope, the Council can communicate this to the Team. Philippe has been monitoring
the conversations closely. Believe what the Team has in the Initial Report is within the scope of the guidance given by the GNSO Council.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:70.9pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It’s important to document the different approaches on the new data element.
<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">3. Initial Report Public Comment Review (50 minutes)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">a. EPDP Team Question for Community Input #3 – see </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/169444210/gnso-EPDP-P2A-pcrt-Initial-Report-Recommendations_Rec3_v0.1.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1626785873000&api=v2"><span style="color:#0563C1">PCRT</span></a><span style="color:black"> and </span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/17obZbKRbez851gYx2P-SQ2C5bF6V3TX9/edit"><span style="color:#0563C1">Discussion
Table</span></a><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">- The discussion tables were developed by the staff support team in an attempt to group similar comments to facilitate the review. Groups were asked to flag comments that require further discussion.
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<span style="color:black">b. Review items flagged for further discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· #1 (IPC) – <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This should be available for registrars to do – for the benefit of registries, it should be consistent across registrars.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There is already an element in RDAP that talks about “kind” and different elements that can be populated – individual, organization. Since it is already in existence, there should be a policy recommendation to
standardize this. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This data element should not be conflated with the recommendation regarding differentiation. Part of the fear of having the standardized item is that differentiation should be required, but that is incorrect.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The RrSG is not opposed to this flag; however, not willing to accept a mandatory data element.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">What some groups want is not what we will end up with; the initial report made it very clear to ask – should this element exist not should it be mandated.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There is an opportunity to agree on having a standardized data element available – the capability for CPs to differentiate in a standardized way. How it is done is important but not the critical question at this
juncture. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If there is an optional choice on whether or not to differentiate, then creating a standardized data element is contradictory. Some organizations are already using the “kind” element – if it is called standardized,
it implies mandatory.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">· #2 (RrSG, IPC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ruling from chair that this is in scope.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">· #3 (ALAC, BC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The Team needs to make a clear recommendation to ICANN org that it is defined. If we are not mandating its use, it’s not consensus policy – but there are many recommendations coming out of PDPs that are not consensus
policy. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Many examples of consensus policies where requirements are optional – setting aside the mandatory discussion, if it is used, it should be used consistently
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There is considerable uncertainty about the nature of domain name registrations – the threshold of work for determining legally if this is a natural or legal person will either fall on the individual or registrar
or both. Do not believe in creating meaningless data elements. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thought the point of reviewing public comments was to flag new concerns or ideas. That is not what is happening right now – the conversation is moving back to policy disagreements.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">· #5 (BC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There are a lot of benefits to the standardized data element that the group has not discussed before – for example, the users of the RDS could assess the veracity of the registrant’s designation. Plan to add these
to the homework document.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">· #6 (RrSG, ALAC, IPC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This is not new information, but ICANN org made important points regarding creation of clear policy language.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Important to address 17.3 as part the Team’s final report.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hope ICANN org liaisons participate in flagging if the final report language is unclear.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">· #7 (GAC, ALAC, IPC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· #11 (BC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Have heard CPs mention cost or resource issues is a barrier to the data element. The group should consider how to reduce these barriers.
<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">· #12 (IPC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">When the team discussed mandatory differentiation, we thought differently about what that would mean. Do not have concerns as a registrar if I am required to give the customer the option to self-designate. All
that means is that a consistent data element is published in the RDS – that doesn’t mean their data is automatically published in the RDDS. The “kind” concept already exists in RDAP.
<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">· #13 (IPC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Not a good idea to discuss the probability of consensus before we consider each other’s positions.
<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">· #14 (ALAC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The comments are not from the public; they are from groups who are participating in this group.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></li></ul>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">c.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black">EPDP Team Question for Community Input #4 – see </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/169444210/gnso-EPDP-P2A-pcrt-Initial-Report-Recommendations_Rec4_v0.1.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1626786603000&api=v2"><span style="color:#0563C1">PCRT</span></a><span style="color:black"> and </span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/111EAx9BuJphPwM22wsvG_oRxj27-r20r/edit"><span style="color:#0563C1">Discussion
Table</span></a><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· #2 (GAC, BC, ALAC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Think about whether guidance is sufficient and consider expressly adding that GDPR does not apply to legal persons.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Also think that guidance should be updated to best practices – should discuss both of these items at the next call.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">· #3 (ALAC, BC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· #5 (BC, ALAC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· #7 (IPC, BC, ALAC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· #9 (BC, RySG)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· #12 (BC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· #14 (BC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· #16 (BC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· #17 (BC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· #18 (BC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· #20 (BC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· #21 (BC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">d.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black">Looking ahead at next assignments:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· EPDP Team Question for Community Input #5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">· Additional Comments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">4. Proposed timeline to get to Final Report (15 minutes):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:56.7pt"><span style="color:black">- 10 August – complete review of public comments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:56.7pt"><span style="color:black">- 12 August – delivery of action items mediated conversations, confirm possible suggestions for further consideration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:56.7pt"><span style="color:black">- 17 & 19 August – consider suggestions for further consideration & agree on updates to report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:56.7pt"><span style="color:black">- 24 & 26 August – consider suggestions for further consideration & agree on updates to report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:56.7pt"><span style="color:black">- 27 August – publish draft Final Report for EPDP Team review, consensus call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:56.7pt"><span style="color:black">- 31 August – finalize report and address any outstanding items.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black">EPDP Team input<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black">Confirm next steps<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level3 lfo5"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In the meetings from 12 August onward, the Team would work on updated language for inclusion in the Final Report.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level3 lfo5"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There probably won’t be anything so dramatically different from the Initial Report that it would need another round of public comments.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level3 lfo5"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Think the timelines are too aggressive and would request more time.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level3 lfo5"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Do not think we need to extend the timeline – there is nothing new in the public comments.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level3 lfo5"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If done, the Team would need to file a project change request by next Monday. The ultimate decision about granting more time belongs to the
Council. If groups believe more time is needed – it would be helpful to provide the rationale for requesting more time to the leadership team. The rationale for requesting more time should be to the level that will convince the entire council that the additional
time is warranted. If the PCR is submitted by the motion and documents deadline, this will allow councilors to have time to consult with their constituencies. Generally speaking, the Council will accept a PCR absent objection, but there is no guarantee in
this instance. As a reminder, the conclusion of this effort will allow work to begin on accuracy. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level3 lfo5"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The Council is not meeting until 19 August, so the Team will still need to work under its existing timeline as an extension is not guaranteed.
Staff will attach the PCR to the notes, and groups asking for more time will be asked to fill in the highlighted areas. Staff will need this by Monday, 9 August by 16:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">5. Wrap and confirm next EPDP Team meeting (5 minutes):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">a. EPDP Team Meeting #34 Tuesday 10 August at 14.00 UTC (tentative)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">b. Confirm action items<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">EPDP Team to review the public comments received for
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/18_TwHMQSnV9fWryJZJdTP0awO-FRUZ5L/edit" target="_blank">
Preliminary Recommendations 5</a> and <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ido40sJSe2p1bRQirUg8wJ02DWL-me1-/edit" target="_blank">
Additional Comments</a>. Groups to use the Discussion Table Google Docs to indicate if new ideas are presented that warrant further discussion by the full team by COB Monday, 9 August. If EPDP Members believe a recommendation should be amended based on a public
comment, EPDP Team members are strongly encouraged to provide proposed updates in the Google docs by COB Monday, 9 August.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">EPDP Team members to indicate benefits and operational challenges of a (i) legal v. natural differentiation and (ii) standardized
data element within the <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L-SdgAb0tJlGJoBbuRWHuKSuZRIdXnia/edit" target="_blank">
dedicated Google Doc </a>by COB Wednesday, 11 August.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:52.9pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Groups who believe the EPDP Team needs more time to deliver its Final Report to indicate rationale in the highlighted portion of the
attached project change request by COB, Friday, 6 August. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">c. Confirm questions for ICANN Org, if any<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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