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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear EPDP Team,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please find the below the notes and action items from today’s meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you again to everyone for getting us to this point!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Marika, Berry, and Caitlin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17qLMYb3HC7qGYPQveXbUq5ZSzvedrQ3t8AdVdrRIdrw/edit#gid=0">Action Items</a><o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Keith to revisit the Chair’s statement in light of concerns from Alan G. and Marc A. and circulate revisions to the EPDP
 Team (if applicable) as soon as possible.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">EPDP Phase 2A - Meeting #41</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Proposed Agenda</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Thursday 2 September 2021 at 14.00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">1.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">                     </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Roll Call & SOI Updates (5 minutes)</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:67.7pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">2.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">                     </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Welcome & Chair updates (Chair) (5 minutes)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If any groups are planning to submit minority statements today, please flag this today to assist in Support Staff’s preparation of the Final Report.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">3.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">                     </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Consider input received on the Chair’s statement and consensus
 designations (see <a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-epdp-team/2021-September/004126.html">
https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-epdp-team/2021-September/004126.html</a>) </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo4"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">One word could be edited. “That is the best that could be achieved” should be changed to “that is the maximum that could
 be achieved” as best seems like a value judgment that some may disagree with.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo4"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“associated with legal person registrations” – that is not accurate. The concern is broader – proposed removing those five
 words – as there is also a concern if inadvertently publishing the personal data of a natural person.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo4"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We have been talking about the rights of registrants and the rights of internet users – we have been talking about legal
 persons data; we were not talking about the fear of personal data in general. <o:p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo4"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Perhaps because legal person data is already mentioned in that sentence, the second reference is unnecessary.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo4"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">With respect to consensus designations, the ALAC will support Rec.1 but reluctantly. This is because ALAC strongly supports
 establishing the basis for the technical field. The reason for wanting to object – is to separate out the various aspects of the field, particularly the requirement or lack thereof, to use the field if the registrar chooses to differentiate. There are those
 who will have this field, but they are not required to use it. The may instead of must for those who are differentiating is not acceptable to ALAC – this should be mandatory to those who choose to differentiate – not necessarily published, but consistent.
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo4"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">These concerns will be noted in ALAC’s minority statement, but the group made the wrong decision to specifically identify
 what is supported because the process was reasonably followed and what is supported because it was liked.
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo4"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">BC also shares these concerns and will note these in a minority statement.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo4"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Perhaps a minor edit could include the inability to split support on recommendation 1 has been raised – the lack of ability
 to state positions in a more granular way was problematic. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo4"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It is not for this group to speculate how someone else who is liable as the controller purports how to deal with data that
 they control.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo4"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Concern with ALAC’s suggestion – this seems to be a slippery slope. The Team is now well aware of the RySG’s discomfort
 with the word should over may. Would it have been necessary to have more granularity there? RySG voiced its concerns but agreed to not object to the overall recommendation but to raise the concern in the minority statement. The same reasoning should apply
 for recommendation 1. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Keith to consider adding language to the Chair’s statement to address the issue in a way that considers Alan and Marc’s
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">4.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">                     </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Confirm minor edits – see <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Il7T4x1nOXA5i8ru58zCwB3KlTg9aZ5h/edit"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Il7T4x1nOXA5i8ru58zCwB3KlTg9aZ5h/edit</span></a>) </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Agree that something needs to indicate where the field goes, the footnote tries to do this. What if the footnote is changed to “where this field or fields can be used within EPP and the RDDS.”<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This is acceptable.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Is there a reason this text can’t just be included in the recommendation?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Add “in the RDDS” at the end of the recommendation.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Last-minute editing is making me uncomfortable. The proposed edit to add RDDS to the last sentence seems to make the footnote redundant.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If anyone objects to changes proposed, the previous text will remain.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This addition is about standards not about mandating use.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Suggest keeping the footnote and adding RDDS in the footnote.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Instead of “applied the advice received”, change to “considered the advice received”<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Prefer to keep applied over considered<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Do not think the entirety of the advice was applied.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Do not object to the proposed change to considered.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">How about “applied key aspects” instead of “applied”<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Do not accept “applied key aspects” – would be OK as “considered”<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“Consider and partially applied”<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Not all agree with the change to “considered” so will revert to original language of “applied”<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Proposed change from “disclosure” to “publication”<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Some have said this is clarified in two places – could someone point where this is clarified?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Just because data is not protected by the GDPR does not mean you have the right to disclose it. Do not support publication of civil rights’ groups information when it could lead to abuse.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">No agreement to change – will leave disclosure instead of publication.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Should be “must coordinate with the technical community”<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Concern raised regarding disclosure was raised in the remainder of the sentence.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If the word is disclosure is kept, IPC would remove support from this recommendation.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Some believe this to be an editing error; others have argued that this is not an editing error.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The addition of RDDS changes the meaning of the sentence and do not support.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Proposed edit: The EPDP Team recommends that a field or fields MUST be created to facilitate differentiation between legal and natural person registration data and/or if that registration data
 contains personal or non-personal data. <s>“Created” in this context means that</s> ICANN org MUST coordinate with the technical community, for example the RDAP WG, to develop any necessary standards associated with using this field or fields within EPP and
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">When this was a footnote, it was referencing back to “must be created”.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Agree to the above language with the crossed-out text.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">5.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">                     </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Confirm next steps</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">2 September – placeholder for EPDP Team meeting to allow for resolution of any remaining issues and/or objections to consensus
 designations<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">2 September – deadline for submission of minority statements<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">3 September – submission of Final Report to GNSO Council<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">10 September – final deadline for minority statements (any minority statements submitted after 2 September will be added
 to the Final Report, with the updated version to be submitted to the Council in time for the September meeting document deadline)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">6.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">                     </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Wrap up</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This is a significant milestone. Thank you to everyone for all of the effort on this.
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