[gnso-gac-closed-generics] For feedback - non anti-competitive behaviour language

Kathy Kleiman Kathy at KathyKleiman.com
Mon Apr 17 15:47:44 UTC 2023


Sophie,

Tx for the drafting! I look forward to diving in...

Best, Kathy

On 4/17/2023 8:43 AM, Sophie Hey wrote:
>
> Happy Monday all!
>
> I have transferred my proposed redlines into a word document attached.
>
> At the moment, I am not suggesting edits to any other section of the 
> document.  My suggestion to /Move non-discrimination and transparency 
> somewhere in the Contracting & Post-Delegation element/, is intended 
> as an alternative if the group is not comfortable with striking 
> “non-discrimination and transparency” from III.2.g.2. 
> Non-discrimination and transparency are already standard obligations 
> in the RA, so if the group does feel strongly about keeping the 
> phrases, then Contracting & Post-Delegation feels a more appropriate 
> place than Application. Given that I personally think that the phrases 
> are redundant, I have not suggested a specific location for them 
> within Contracting & Post-Delegation. If the group decides that this 
> is the approach they would like, I would be happy to draft language or 
> defer to Staff.
>
> Sophie
>
> Sophie Hey
> she/her
> Policy Advisor
> Com Laude
> *T*+44 (0) 20 7421 8250
> *Ext* 252
>
> <https://comlaude.com/>
>
> *From:*Nigel Hickson <nigel.hickson at dcms.gov.uk>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2023 9:17 AM
> *To:* Kathy Kleiman <Kathy at kathykleiman.com>
> *Cc:* gnso-gac-closed-generics at icann.org; Sophie Hey 
> <sophie.hey at comlaude.com>; Melissa Peters Allgood 
> <melissa.allgood at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-gac-closed-generics] For feedback - non 
> anti-competitive behaviour language
>
> Good morning
>
> Personally, would really find it useful discussing these important 
> points on ca Call rather than just exchanging views on mailing list;
>
> best
>
> Nigel
>
> On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 at 18:39, Kathy Kleiman <Kathy at kathykleiman.com> 
> wrote:
>
>     Hi Sophie,
>
>     I'm not sure I am following all of your edits, and I would
>     certainly like to, especially as Melissa is now asking for an up
>     or down vote.
>
>     Could you kindly share with us your version of III(2)(g) as it
>     would exist with all of the edits you propose below?  I provide a
>     clean version of our current version below.
>
>     Also, are you proposing edits to any other section than the
>     current III(2)(g)?  If so, could you show us exactly where those
>     edits would be and how the section would read?
>
>     Best and many tx!!
>
>     Kathy
>
>     ---------------- Current Framework v.2 - Application III(2)(g)
>     -----------------------
>
>     a.​​[UNDER DISCUSSION] *Demonstrate the requirement of
>     representativeness OR of non anti-competitive behavior. *
>
>     1.*For “representativeness”,  applicants must demonstrate that the
>     applicant represents all or a significant part of the businesses
>     (or has their agreement) in the industry or grouping related to
>     the closed generic term. *
>
>     2.*For “non anti-competitive behavior”, applicants must commit
>     that its use of this closed generic gTLD will be consistent with
>     principles of competitive neutrality, non-discrimination and
>     transparency. [Now deleted:*
>
>     o "Representativeness" may be demonstrated by showing support​
>     from ​a significant part ​OR the whole of that group ​​that
>     considers itself described by th​e closed generic​ term. (This
>     criterion can be fulfilled, for example, by​ the applicant being​
>     an umbrella organization of the industry in question​.)​
>
>     oThe application must show that significantly "interested
>     parties," including competitors, have been consulted and engaged
>     for input prior to submission of the application.
>
>     oShould an applicant need to demonstrate that it has the support
>     of its peers/competitors to operate the closed generic gTLD?
>
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     On 4/14/2023 4:55 AM, Sophie Hey wrote:
>
>         Hi all,
>
>         I wanted to float some suggestions for feedback for dealing
>         with the language we discussed on Wednesday’s call. For
>         clarity, the purple highlighted text is where I am proposing
>         edits.
>
>         Demonstrate the requirement of representativeness OR of non
>         anti-competitive behaviour.
>
>          1. For “representativeness”,  applicants must demonstrate
>             that the applicant represents all or a significant part of
>             the businesses (or has their agreement) in the industry or
>             grouping related to the closed generic term.
>          2. For “non anti-competitive behaviour”, applicants must
>             commit that its use of this closed generic gTLD will be
>             consistent with principles of competitive neutrality,
>             non-discrimination and transparency.
>
>         To be clear, I am not objecting to the concept, and I am very
>         much on board with applicants committing they will not use the
>         TLD in a non anti-competitive manner. My concern is the
>         phrasing of “principles of competitive neutrality”. It is too
>         nebulous to have any real meaning for applicants. I am also
>         nervous about using the phrase competitive advantage, as this
>         is a term that does not always indicate anti-competitive
>         behaviour. I have set out some alternative suggestions to the
>         highlighted purple:
>
>          1. Will not be used to engage in: exclusive dealing,
>             collusion, preventing third parties from supplying or
>             offering to supply goods or services, or otherwise
>             controlling, limiting, or restricting the supply of goods
>             or services.
>          2. Substitute the purple section with the principles of
>             competitive neutrality. If this is an option to explore,
>             could GAC participants please share the principles they
>             have in mind?
>
>         For the non-discrimination and transparency language, I
>         likewise have two suggestions.
>
>          1. Strike the language completely as it is redundant. The
>             concepts are already in the Base Registry Agreement
>             <https://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/agreements/agreement-approved-31jul17-en.pdf>
>             in Specification 11 3(c) (see page 98).
>          2. Move non-discrimination and transparency somewhere in the
>             Contracting & Post-Delegation element.
>
>         My personal preference is for option 1.
>
>         Sophie
>
>         Sophie Hey
>         she/her
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>
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