[gnso-gac-closed-generics] Draft Framework for Closed Generic gTLD & ICANN77 Sessions

Thu Jun 8 18:24:00 UTC 2023

Good evening

Thanks so much Melissa for your mail and for Mary's constructive input.

I agree with Jaosn; it would be really excellent to at least hear from the
Board during the Monday meeting (though respect of course not a formal
view) and of course are esteemed Org colleagues.

On the Session process, I would join with Jeff in perhaps proposing that
after an introduction to the Framework by Org (not least on some background
to issue) that we all (as participants) be given the opportunity to say a
few words; I think it would look odd if we just sat there.

best

Nigel

On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 at 17:30, Merritt, Jason (ISED/ISDE) <
Jason.Merritt at ised-isde.gc.ca> wrote:

> My personal view is I’m okay with the proposed structure of the sessions,
> including staff presenting “on behalf” of the community groups.
>
> I support a communication or both Org and the Board making them aware of
> the open sessions and inviting their views (whether that’s comments or
> views after the comments are in).
>
> Looking forward to catching up!
>
>
> Jason Merritt
>
> Sr Policy Advisor, Telecommunications and Internet Policy Branch
> Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada / Government of Canada
> Jason.Merritt at ised-isde.gc.ca / Tel: 343-571-9775 / TTY: 1-866-694-8389
>
> Conseiller(ère) princ. en politiques, Direction generale des politiques de
> telecommunications et d'Internet
> Innovation, Sciences et Développement économique Canada / Gouvernement du
> Canada
> Jason.Merritt at ised-isde.gc.ca / Tél. : 343-571-9775 / ATS : 1-866-694-8389
>
>
>
> On Jun 8, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Greg Shatan [NARALO] <
> gregshatanalac at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Jeff,
>
> I support a communication to both ICANN Org and the Board inviting them to
> our ICANN77 sessions and requesting their presence, participation and
> input, and for the same afterwards.  I'm not sure (technically) whether
> either would participate in the comment period vs. providing their views
> after the comments are in.  It would be helpful to find out from staff how
> Org and Board will be engaged going forward (beyond the extremely valuable
> participation from Alan B. and Patricio).
>
> Personally, I'm most interested in the reaction of the GAC. In many ways,
> I view a major goal of our work as responding to the Beijing Communique
> (albeit, indirectly) in order to avoid another response from the GAC that
> says in essence that Closed Generics are still not "ready for prime time."
>
> It doesn't bother me at all that Staff would distribute this.  Perhaps it
> can/will be phrased as being "on behalf of the GAC-GNSO-ALAC Facilitated
> Dialogue on Closed Generic
> gTLDs."
>
>  I have no reason to believe that ICANN Org would not support this type
> of framework and be able to implement it (or more accurately, the output
> from the PDP group).  By "support" do you mean "agree with" or do you mean
> "facilitate and provide resources for"?
>
> I don't see anything that Org could not implement. With some optimism, I
> also don't see anything Org could not support.  If there are pieces that
> need improvement, hopefully we will hear about them from Board, Org,
> community and others.
>
> See you in a few days!
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 10:49 AM jeff at jjnsolutions.com <
> jeff at jjnsolutions.com> wrote:
>
>> Does it seem odd to anyone in this group that the framework is being
>> presented by ICANN staff.  Does that send the right message that this was a
>> facilitated dialog  amongst community members.
>>
>> Also, I know this is a late question, but are we even sure that ICANN Org
>> would support this type of framework and be able to implement it?
>>
>> On that note, I would like to specifically make an ask to GDD staff that
>> they specifically respond during the public comment period with their
>> concerns or support or both.  We have learned that staff providing input
>> AFTER the policies are developed is too late for any meaningful changes,
>> and we do not want to repeat the unnecessary delays of having to have an
>> ODP after all the work is done.
>>
>> So, I am specifically proposing a note to both ICANN Org and the Board
>> asking for their input during this meeting and during the brief comment
>> period!
>>
>> Who is with me on that?
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From "Melissa Peters Allgood" <melissa.allgood at icann.org>
>> To "gnso-gac-closed-generics at icann.org" <
>> gnso-gac-closed-generics at icann.org>
>> Date 6/8/2023 9:16:06 AM
>> Subject [gnso-gac-closed-generics] Draft Framework for Closed Generic
>> gTLD & ICANN77 Sessions
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Congratulations on a job well done! You have worked hard to reach this
>> point, a compromise draft framework ready for community for feedback. Your
>> dedication to this project is a testament to the multistakholder model.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just a few points for your review following yesterday’s call.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Draft Framework *
>>
>> Attached is the Draft Framework for Closed Generic gTLDs. This document
>> will be shared with the community at 21:00 UTC today, 8 June. Please note,
>> all meeting notes taken pursuant to Chatham House rules are found via link
>> in Annex 2, as well as on the public wiki page for this group.
>>
>>
>>
>> *ICANN77 Session Planning*
>>
>> Based on your feedback (albeit brief) on our call, we propose the
>> following session structure for ICANN77:
>>
>>
>>
>> Section 1: Presentation of information – Staff
>>
>>    - Introduction to the Dialogue
>>    - Introduction to the Process, Commitments & Participants
>>    - Introduction to the Framework
>>
>>
>>
>> Section 2: Discussion and community questions – Participants
>>
>>
>>
>> Question: Do you wish to run the same structure at both sessions or do
>> you prefer two different sessions plans? If you select the latter, please
>> elaborate.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks and heartfelt congratulations!
>>
>> Melissa
>>
>>
>>
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