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    <p>Jeff, <br>
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    <p>If we don't resolve the competition, consumer confusion and
      violation of trademark principle/law problems raised by
      governments, large and small entities, and individuals around the
      world about closed generic gTLDs in the first round, then how do
      we reach a public interest solution?  It's not "rehashing old
      arguments," it's getting to the heart of the matter.</p>
    <p>No one is saying we cannot reach the goal, but GAC members and
      the public told us long ago what we must consider to get there. <br>
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    <p>Best, Kathy<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/7/2022 1:04 AM, Jeff Neuman
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          <div>Kathy,</div>
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          <div dir="ltr">While I appreciate your advocacy piece from an
            organization called the Domain Name Rights Coalition (which
            I admit I am not familiar with), all of the sources
            referenced were thoroughly discussed over the many years of
            the SubPro Working Group.  Our job is very narrow and does
            not include revisiting all of the work done in SubPro, but
            rather to discuss whether a compromise proposal can be
            presented to the GNSO and the community for policy
            development.<span></span><span></span></div>
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          <div dir="ltr">Your position opposing Closed Generics is well
            documented.  But with all due respect, rehashing all of the
            old arguments for or against are counterproductive at best.
             We have agreed to a facilitator and I would propose that we
            follow her lead if we are to make any progress at all.  <span></span></div>
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          <div dir="ltr">Our job is to be objective in assessing
            potential compromises.  I fear that advocating either
            completely for or completely against having Closed Generics
            will lessen the likelihood of success of the group.<span></span></div>
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          <div dir="ltr">We have existing GAC Advice that states the
            Closed Generics must "serve a public interest goal."  It
            does not state that they should be prohibited, nor does its
            state that it should be allowed without restriction.  I
            would like to hear from the facilitator on how to proceed.</div>
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          <div dir="ltr">Sincerely,</div>
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              <div style="direction:ltr">Jeffrey J. Neuman</div>
              <div style="direction:ltr">Founder & CEO</div>
              <div style="direction:ltr">JJN Solutions, LLC</div>
              <div style="direction:ltr"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Jeff@JJNSolutions.com">Jeff@JJNSolutions.com</a></div>
              <div style="direction:ltr">+1.202.549.5079</div>
              <div style="direction:ltr"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="Http://www.jjnsolutions.com">Http://www.jjnsolutions.com</a></div>
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            <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri,
                sans-serif"><b>From:</b> gnso-gac-closed-generics
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-gac-closed-generics-bounces@icann.org></a> on
                behalf of Kathy Kleiman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Kathy@KathyKleiman.com"><Kathy@KathyKleiman.com></a><br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 4, 2022 4:51 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org">gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org</a>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org"><gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [gnso-gac-closed-generics] Additional
                context and background for closed generic gTLDs
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,</p>
            <p>In Kuala Lumpur, at the Public Forum, I shared my concern
              that we need more <span style="">
                background and context about closed generic issues
                raised by governments and commenters in 2012 and 2013.
                Afterwards, others at the Public Forum agreed and shared
                their hope that more information about Early Warnings
                and community comments would be compiled.<br>
              </span></p>
            <p>To that end, some members of the community prepared a
              paper with additional background and context- a compendium
              of Early Warnings and comments on closed generic gTLDs in
              the first round. Please see attached.
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,</p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Kathy<br>
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