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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Speaking on behalf of staff, we welcome you taking the lead on this session. The Draft Framework is your work product, not ours. We are just trying to find a way forward based on your feedback.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Currently the session structure looks like this:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">This will be presented in 3 blocks and is an opportunity for multiple participants to take the lead.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Staff is working on slides for points 1-4. Anyone who wishes to take the lead on any of these points, please let us know and we can support your preparation.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Does this work?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Melissa</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">gnso-gac-closed-generics <gnso-gac-closed-generics-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "jeff@jjnsolutions.com" <jeff@jjnsolutions.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"jeff@jjnsolutions.com" <jeff@jjnsolutions.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, June 9, 2023 at 4:37 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Greg Shatan [NARALO]" <gregshatanalac@gmail.com>, "jorge.cancio@bakom.admin.ch" <jorge.cancio@bakom.admin.ch><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org" <gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-gac-closed-generics] Draft Framework for Closed Generic gTLD & ICANN77 Sessions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">If I +1 to Nigel, am I really +1'ing myself ;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Yes, we should all have roles to play in this discussion. We want to make it clear that the work was ours and that although ICANN staff is helping us out tremendously and
we couldnt do it without them, we need to show the community that we did the work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Happy to help out however I can.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">From "Greg Shatan [NARALO]" <<a href="mailto:gregshatanalac@gmail.com">gregshatanalac@gmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Date 6/9/2023 4:27:15 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">I agree as well and spoke too quickly before. If the Staff does all the talking and we just sit there looking beautiful, it would be rather odd.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 14:32 Jorge.Cancio--- via gnso-gac-closed-generics <<a href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org">gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Von: Nigel Hickson via gnso-gac-closed-generics <<a href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org">gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org</a>><br>
Datum: 8. Juni 2023 um 20:24:43 MESZ<br>
An: Merritt, Jason (ISED/ISDE) <<a href="mailto:Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca">Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org">gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org">gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org</a>><br>
Betreff: Re: [gnso-gac-closed-generics] Draft Framework for Closed Generic gTLD & ICANN77 Sessions<br>
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Good evening<br>
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Thanks so much Melissa for your mail and for Mary's constructive input.<br>
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I agree with Jaosn; it would be really excellent to at least hear from the Board during the Monday meeting (though respect of course not a formal view) and of course are esteemed Org colleagues.<br>
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On the Session process, I would join with Jeff in perhaps proposing that after an introduction to the Framework by Org (not least on some background to issue) that we all (as participants) be given the opportunity to say a few words; I think it would look odd
if we just sat there.<br>
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best<br>
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Nigel<br>
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On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 at 17:30, Merritt, Jason (ISED/ISDE) <<a href="mailto:Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca">Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca">Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca</a>>> wrote:<br>
My personal view is I’m okay with the proposed structure of the sessions, including staff presenting “on behalf” of the community groups.<br>
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I support a communication or both Org and the Board making them aware of the open sessions and inviting their views (whether that’s comments or views after the comments are in).<br>
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Looking forward to catching up!<br>
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Jason Merritt<br>
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Sr Policy Advisor, Telecommunications and Internet Policy Branch<br>
Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada / Government of Canada<br>
<a href="mailto:Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca">Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca">Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca</a>> / Tel: 343-571-9775 / TTY: 1-866-694-8389<br>
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Conseiller(ère) princ. en politiques, Direction generale des politiques de telecommunications et d'Internet<br>
Innovation, Sciences et Développement économique Canada / Gouvernement du Canada<br>
<a href="mailto:Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca">Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca">Jason.Merritt@ised-isde.gc.ca</a>> / Tél. : 343-571-9775 / ATS : 1-866-694-8389<br>
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On Jun 8, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Greg Shatan [NARALO] <<a href="mailto:gregshatanalac@gmail.com">gregshatanalac@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanalac@gmail.com">gregshatanalac@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Jeff,<br>
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I support a communication to both ICANN Org and the Board inviting them to our ICANN77 sessions and requesting their presence, participation and input, and for the same afterwards. I'm not sure (technically) whether either would participate in the comment
period vs. providing their views after the comments are in. It would be helpful to find out from staff how Org and Board will be engaged going forward (beyond the extremely valuable participation from Alan B. and Patricio).<br>
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Personally, I'm most interested in the reaction of the GAC. In many ways, I view a major goal of our work as responding to the Beijing Communique (albeit, indirectly) in order to avoid another response from the GAC that says in essence that Closed Generics
are still not "ready for prime time."<br>
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It doesn't bother me at all that Staff would distribute this. Perhaps it can/will be phrased as being "on behalf of the GAC-GNSO-ALAC Facilitated Dialogue on Closed Generic<br>
gTLDs."<br>
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I have no reason to believe that ICANN Org would not support this type of framework and be able to implement it (or more accurately, the output from the PDP group). By "support" do you mean "agree with" or do you mean "facilitate and provide resources for"?<br>
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I don't see anything that Org could not implement. With some optimism, I also don't see anything Org could not support. If there are pieces that need improvement, hopefully we will hear about them from Board, Org, community and others.<br>
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See you in a few days!<br>
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Greg<br>
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On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 10:49 AM <a href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com">jeff@jjnsolutions.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com">jeff@jjnsolutions.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com">jeff@jjnsolutions.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com">jeff@jjnsolutions.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
Does it seem odd to anyone in this group that the framework is being presented by ICANN staff. Does that send the right message that this was a facilitated dialog amongst community members.<br>
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Also, I know this is a late question, but are we even sure that ICANN Org would support this type of framework and be able to implement it?<br>
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On that note, I would like to specifically make an ask to GDD staff that they specifically respond during the public comment period with their concerns or support or both. We have learned that staff providing input AFTER the policies are developed is too late
for any meaningful changes, and we do not want to repeat the unnecessary delays of having to have an ODP after all the work is done.<br>
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So, I am specifically proposing a note to both ICANN Org and the Board asking for their input during this meeting and during the brief comment period!<br>
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Who is with me on that?<br>
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From "Melissa Peters Allgood" <<a href="mailto:melissa.allgood@icann.org">melissa.allgood@icann.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:melissa.allgood@icann.org">melissa.allgood@icann.org</a>>><br>
To "<a href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org">gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org">gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org">gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org">gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org</a>>><br>
Date 6/8/2023 9:16:06 AM<br>
Subject [gnso-gac-closed-generics] Draft Framework for Closed Generic gTLD & ICANN77 Sessions<br>
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Hello all,<br>
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Congratulations on a job well done! You have worked hard to reach this point, a compromise draft framework ready for community for feedback. Your dedication to this project is a testament to the multistakholder model.<br>
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Just a few points for your review following yesterday’s call.<br>
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Draft Framework<br>
Attached is the Draft Framework for Closed Generic gTLDs. This document will be shared with the community at 21:00 UTC today, 8 June. Please note, all meeting notes taken pursuant to Chatham House rules are found via link in Annex 2, as well as on the public
wiki page for this group.<br>
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ICANN77 Session Planning<br>
Based on your feedback (albeit brief) on our call, we propose the following session structure for ICANN77:<br>
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Section 1: Presentation of information – Staff<br>
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* Introduction to the Dialogue<br>
* Introduction to the Process, Commitments & Participants<br>
* Introduction to the Framework<br>
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Section 2: Discussion and community questions – Participants<br>
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Question: Do you wish to run the same structure at both sessions or do you prefer two different sessions plans? If you select the latter, please elaborate.<br>
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Many thanks and heartfelt congratulations!<br>
Melissa<br>
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