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    <p>I'm very much in favor of walking through the Framework a bit, so
      I concur with Jeff about posting actual parts of it and even
      reading key section to/with the audience. <br>
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    <p>Today, in NCSG, I had a few slides.  One was the three sections
      of the Framework, and then several slides walking through the
      substance of each section. I tried to take sections that were
      small enough to be readable on screen.</p>
    <p>For example, Application Section four (specific the public
      interest goal(s)... and Section five (explain the purpose) with
      the details of 4a-c, 5a, etc. Of course, Section ten (demonstrate
      requirement of representativeness or non-anticompetitive behavior)
      with some of the detail.</p>
    <p>It raised the level of interest and level of discussion.<font
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    <p><font size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt;">Afterwards, of
          course, I support Manal's suggestion favoring community
          input.  <br>
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    <p><font size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt;">Best, Kathy<br>
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    On 6/12/2023 6:05 PM, Jeff Neuman wrote:<br>
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          <div>I agree 100%.  I know many of them will not have read the
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                sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Sophie Hey
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                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 12, 2023 5:02 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Manal Ismail <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg"><manal@tra.gov.eg></a>; Jeff
                Neuman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com"><jeff@jjnsolutions.com></a>; Mary Wong
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                <b>Subject:</b> RE: Outline of next steps and proposed
                agenda for Tuesday session at ICANN77
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                <div class="PlainText">I support Manal's suggestion<br>
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                  From: gnso-gac-closed-generics
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-gac-closed-generics-bounces@icann.org></a> On
                  Behalf Of Manal Ismail<br>
                  Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 4:59 PM<br>
                  To: Jeff Neuman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com"><jeff@jjnsolutions.com></a>; Mary
                  Wong <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org"><mary.wong@icann.org></a>;
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org">gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org</a><br>
                  Subject: Re: [gnso-gac-closed-generics] Outline of
                  next steps and proposed agenda for Tuesday session at
                  ICANN77<br>
                  <br>
                  Many thanks Patricio for the good suggestion and
                  Melissa and Mary for accomodating ..<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  If group participants agree, I suggest that we reverse
                  the order of the comments, and do not have to
                  necessarily divide the time equally .. We have already
                  spoken for the whole session today, and I would like
                  to see us favoring community input during this session
                  .. That said, in order to secure enough time for
                  community feedback during this session​, I propose we
                  start each block by listening to community
                  interventions, then respond or comment as apporiate ..<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Thoughts?<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Kind Regards<br>
                  <br>
                  --Manal<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  ________________________________<br>
                  From: gnso-gac-closed-generics
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-gac-closed-generics-bounces@icann.org></a> on
                  behalf of Jeff Neuman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com"><jeff@jjnsolutions.com></a><br>
                  Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 10:06 PM<br>
                  To: Mary Wong; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org">gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org</a><br>
                  Subject: Re: [gnso-gac-closed-generics] Outline of
                  next steps and proposed agenda for Tuesday session at
                  ICANN77<br>
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                  Mary,<br>
                  <br>
                  I guess I agree on agenda. The rest of the email on
                  what happens next is beyond scope of group.<br>
                  <br>
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                  From: gnso-gac-closed-generics
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                  behalf of Mary Wong <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org"><mary.wong@icann.org></a><br>
                  Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 2:02:48 PM<br>
                  To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org">gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org</a>
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org"><gnso-gac-closed-generics@icann.org></a><br>
                  Subject: [gnso-gac-closed-generics] Outline of next
                  steps and proposed agenda for Tuesday session at
                  ICANN77<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Dear all,<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Based on the questions and discussions at the first
                  open session held earlier today, and to prepare for
                  the second open session coming up tomorrow, staff
                  would like to outline what we understand to be the
                  next steps for the dialogue work leading up to a Final
                  Framework. We have started to document next steps on
                  your public wiki space<<a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/GFDOCG/FOR+INPUT%3A+Draft+Framework+for+Closed+Generic+gTLDs"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://community.icann.org/display/GFDOCG/FOR+INPUT%3A+Draft+Framework+for+Closed+Generic+gTLDs</a>>,
                  and we plan on including this information in the
                  twice-weekly Community Leadership Digest that the
                  Policy Development Support team publishes for the
                  community, up to the suggested closing date of 15 July
                  2023. We will also coordinate with our colleagues that
                  support all the different SOAC groups, to ensure that
                  their members are aware of the invitation to provide
                  feedback on the Draft Framework.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  We have set up an email address where community groups
                  and individuals can send in their input directly:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:closed-generics-feedback@icann.org">closed-generics-feedback@icann.org</a><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:closed-generics-feedback@icann.org"><mailto:closed-generics-feedback@icann.org></a>.
                  This is a publicly-archived<<a
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                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/closed-generics-feedback/</a>>
                  mailing list, which means that you and anyone that
                  wishes to can see the submissions as they come in, in
                  full. The staff team will ensure that all submissions
                  are made public via the wiki and, similar to the
                  support we provide to other community policy-related
                  efforts, collate the feedback into a single tool to
                  facilitate your discussions on the input received.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  In addition, and to encourage community groups to
                  submit input, they may send their feedback through
                  their staff support team.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  As these steps mirror those that we follow for more
                  formal Public Comment proceedings, we hope that this
                  approach, which also ensures that all feedback is
                  documented and made public, addresses any concerns
                  from community members about transparency,
                  accessibility and their ability to provide feedback on
                  the Draft Framework.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  After your deliberations on a Final Framework
                  following your review of the community input, our
                  understanding is that the three groups that are
                  participating in the dialogue (i.e. the ALAC, GAC and
                  GNSO Council) will each use their own internal
                  processes to signal whether they agree with the
                  proposed approach in the Final Framework. This is
                  expected to take place in the third quarter of this
                  calendar year, and will be the final step before
                  moving ahead with the requisite policy work through a
                  GNSO Council-chartered process in which the ALAC and
                  GAC will also be involved. Of course, as noted in the
                  Draft Framework, if the group does not reach agreement
                  on a Final Framework, the issue of closed generic
                  gTLDs will revert to the ICANN Board for a decision on
                  the matter for the next round.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Finally, please find below the proposed agenda for the
                  open session tomorrow:<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                    1.  Review of the Draft Framework - Melissa Peters
                  Allgood & Dialogue Participants (80 mins)<br>
                  <br>
                  (i)                  Application  (30 mins)<br>
                  <br>
                                                  Participant comments 
                  (15 mins)<br>
                  <br>
                                                  Community Q&A  (15
                  mins)<br>
                  <br>
                  (ii)                Evaluation  (30 mins)<br>
                  <br>
                                                  Participant comments 
                  (15 mins)<br>
                  <br>
                                                  Community Q&A  (15
                  mins)<br>
                  <br>
                  (iii)               Contracting & Post-Delegation 
                  (20 mins)<br>
                  <br>
                                                  Participant comments 
                  (10 mins)<br>
                  <br>
                  Community Q&A  (10 mins)<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                    1.  Next Steps - Melissa Peters Allgood (5 mins)<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Best regards,<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Mary (on behalf of Melissa Peters Allgood and the
                  staff team supporting the facilitated dialogue)
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